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peter_rookie
Joined: 27 Oct 2020 Posts: 157 Location: Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:20 Post subject: difference between version 1 and 2 of 2.8 Deli |
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hi,
having tried the search and FAQ i am left with some questions.
I am currently looking to buy a LWB 2.8 and have one from 1st series and another from 2nd series to look at. I read that 2nd series having 140hp vs 125 of series 1 and that s2 has an EFI, does that mean S1 has a mechanical pump or different EFI?
what are the main differences, where did the S2 mature over S1 and where is S1 superior?
thanks a lot,
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16299 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 16:14 Post subject: |
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S1 is a mechanical pump.
Other changes are basically cosmetic.
See this post for info:- http://www.MDOCUK.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=30196 _________________
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peter_rookie
Joined: 27 Oct 2020 Posts: 157 Location: Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 17:00 Post subject: |
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thanks a lot Lewis, already saw that comparison, but missing on the pump specs.
interesting read!
I really wonder why the load is so low for a seven to nine seater?
quite a limitation for an overlander. |
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mark3
Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Posts: 905 Location: Rainham Village, Essex
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 14:30 Post subject: |
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They're both mechanical fuel injection (as opposed to common rail) but the S2 is an electronically controlled mechanical fuel injection pump, it all looks very similar apart from the shape of the injector pump body, some extra engine loom connectors and extra vacuum housings on the inlet manifold. _________________
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peter_rookie
Joined: 27 Oct 2020 Posts: 157 Location: Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:11 Post subject: |
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thanks, understood.
I know this from my Landcruiser, mine has EFI on top of the old pump giving it a bit more fuel efficiency but evryone wants the mechanical pump as it is easier to tweak.
I am not planning on doing anything on the engine, need it to just work reliably.
with the older Toyoto's like mine there are failing ecu's which can really sour up your day. capacitors dtying out etc. anything like that known on the Deli? |
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andyman
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 5602 Location: Penrith
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 18:55 Post subject: |
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I believe very few of the electronic controlled pump versions were imported. Mitsubishi never allowed the computer diagnostics for the Deli to come over here as the vehicle was only a grey import. So if you did get ecu/electronic problems, it was very hard to find anyone who could correct and reset it - one reason why most later imports are the V6 petrol. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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peter_rookie
Joined: 27 Oct 2020 Posts: 157 Location: Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 22:02 Post subject: |
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makes lot of sense, thanks for claryfying |
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CSMonkey
Joined: 05 Feb 2014 Posts: 377 Location: Exmouth
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 22:29 Post subject: |
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But if you have a local Jap tuning garage near you, they will most likely have software that can diagnose JOBD imports. Or you can use the old tried and tested method to flash the dash lights to read out any engine error codes from the ECU.
I was worried when I bought my S2, and I had a problem with my TPS which I was able to diagnose with the dash lights, and tell the garage where to start looking. Now I'm more worried about the the rust that's appeared on the bottom of the sliding door .
Rich _________________ No more Delica |
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peter_rookie
Joined: 27 Oct 2020 Posts: 157 Location: Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 22:41 Post subject: |
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oh, rust.... i just looked at a s2 today which was axvertised as well maintained... rust buckets would blush seeing that.
drove six6 hrs....
checked engine, opened oil cap and it was like a sperm whale ejecting oil all over |
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annek
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 613 Location: Brighton, East Sussex
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:53 Post subject: |
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How did you 'flash the dash lights' to pick up any error codes csmonkey? |
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Lewis Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:51 Post subject: |
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annek wrote: |
How did you 'flash the dash lights' to pick up any error codes... |
See:- http://www.MDOCUK.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33159 _________________
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andyman
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 14:12 Post subject: |
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Not a good idea to remove the oil cap with engine running, unless you immediately put your hand over the hole to check for crankcase pressure (ie blow-by). Uncovered, it's a good sign if it spits oil all over! Just makes a mess. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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Lewis Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:25 Post subject: |
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Curious comment Andy. What, within this post, prompted you to say that ? _________________
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andyman
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 18:19 Post subject: |
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OP's post, a bit further up, which finished: - "checked engine, opened oil cap and it was like a sperm whale ejecting oil all over". _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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Lewis Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 18:30 Post subject: |
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I missed that, assuming it was a signature line. _________________
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peter_rookie
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:39 Post subject: |
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andyman wrote: |
OP's post, a bit further up, which finished: - "checked engine, opened oil cap and it was like a sperm whale ejecting oil all over". |
thanks flr clarifying |
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JDawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2021 Posts: 1 Location: Merimbula, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:16 Post subject: |
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Interesting and informative
Thanks guys
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