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RichardK
Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 103 Location: West Midlands
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 17:48 Post subject: Small cans of Waxoyl |
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When I fitted the exhaust, I caught the hanger for the stabiliser rod on the rear axle and scratched it. I haven't had the car undersealed yet (or rather; the person that imported it didn't have it done and as such the car has surface rust underneath in various place), so I got a can of the black aerosol Waxoyl to quickly cover that area before it got salt water on it, in case I can't get the underseal done soon.
Whilst there I got the kit for clear/proper waxoyl.
Anyway, the spray can stuff. Is it going to do any harm to have put some on the inner edges of the sill where I noticed some surface rust? I figure it can't do any harm, but perhaps won't do as much good as a proper treatment would. _________________ Geek with cars: 125 cars 17 years!
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THE KICK INSIDE
Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 1592 Location: Staffordshire
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 0:12 Post subject: |
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I would get as much off as you can, hit it with KRUST or a similar rust killing product then hit it with a the waxoil...I hate tinworm! _________________ A Delica - ITS LIKE A SWEDISH BRICK...ONLY BIGGER! |
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RichardK
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 0:55 Post subject: |
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That's the approach I'll take to the panel behind the wheel arch liner where I found some rust; Jenolite is in the local factors, so I'll remove the trim and so forth, wire brush, Jenolite and Waxoyl it comprehensively. The stuff I've covered up is just the "brown staining" sort of rust, not flaking/rot thankfully. If I had rot in the sills I'd probably be less calm ;) _________________ Geek with cars: 125 cars 17 years!
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16299 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:00 Post subject: |
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IIRC the only difference is that one is black and one is clear, with the product itself containing the same undersealing properties. The Clear was more designed for use inside the door and wall panels, internal floors, bulkhead and box sections.
The product is soluble in turps and you can always clean it off with a steam pressure cleaner. _________________
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RichardK
Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 103 Location: West Midlands
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:42 Post subject: |
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There's black and clear, but also some Waxoyl (black) in a spray can.
My original thought was to have the car done professionally (heh. Having done a bit myself, I reckon the difference is that the professional has a ramp to park the car on) and get the spray can in clear to do the engine bay in a nice, simple way. However, they only offer black in a spray can apparently (Google suggests otherwise, so I might need to train my motor factor).
Anyway, armed with this (mis)information I bought the kit with some clear, so I'll have fun with the pressure can and squirty lance things, which appear to be "hose with a screw in the end".
I might get the underseal for my not-rusty wheelarches/wheelwells, since it's supposed to be less good for rust, but better for stonechip resistance.
I feel like my friends' parents must have in the 80s, desperately trying to keep their (worryingly young, in hindsight) P-registered Cortina on the road with tubs of bitumen paint. That car, when we had a W-reg Audi and Mk IV Cortinas were everywhere (the Sierra had just been launched) seemed like it was so ancient, and yet it was actually a mere 6 or 7 years old - yet the door bottoms were rusting away, and it was constantly being worked on. _________________ Geek with cars: 125 cars 17 years!
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THE KICK INSIDE
Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 1592 Location: Staffordshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 16:47 Post subject: |
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i wouldn't bother with the sqirty pressurised bit of tube wax oil thing....use a brush it will be a LOT less frustrating and you will get less on yourself, the ground, the cat, the dog - in fact the only thing you won't get it on with one of those in my experience is the CAR... _________________ A Delica - ITS LIKE A SWEDISH BRICK...ONLY BIGGER! |
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Yojimbo
Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 1202 Location: Bucks
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 16:59 Post subject: |
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Paraffin gun and 100psi, water the waxoyl down with some white spirit and have at it. |
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THE KICK INSIDE
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 17:10 Post subject: |
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well i used a underseal gun...and about 90 psi but yep its the way to go! _________________ A Delica - ITS LIKE A SWEDISH BRICK...ONLY BIGGER! |
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Lewis Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 17:54 Post subject: |
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RichardK wrote: |
There's black and clear, but also some Waxoyl (black) in a spray can. |
If you mean this stuff:- Hammerite Underbody Seal with Waxoyl then forget it. I bought two cans and most of it dribbled out of the spray cap and down the can and my fingers. They both went in the bin half full. _________________
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RichardK
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 18:09 Post subject: |
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No, it wasn't that - it was the normal waxoyl, and it sprayed really well. The underbody seal is harder and less good at protecting rusty areas apparently... _________________ Geek with cars: 125 cars 17 years!
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 18:15 Post subject: |
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Don't know about anyone else but Strangerover and mine have bene sprayed with:-
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RichardK
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 19:32 Post subject: |
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The Shutz stuff is the Bitumen, heavy stuff that dries and needs more maintenance, but offers better protection from grit/stones. I don't like it if I think the car will need repairs, but it's a good protection for undamaged/fresh imports. _________________ Geek with cars: 125 cars 17 years!
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Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 43 Location: yate
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:31 Post subject: waxoil |
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I've just waxoiled mine with the hamerite clear waxoil that has a rust eater included into it, the presurised can was not that good but putting the can in hot water for about a hour seemed to help sayin that i ended up using about 7 ltrs of the stuff underneith, 2 hrs later n probably 5 ltrs of it on me its all done |
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