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Timing chain replacement day - mini meet


 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 19:52    Post subject: Timing chain replacement day - mini meet Reply with quote

I've moved this post(s) here for obvious reasons... Read down for a guide on timing chain change - Moderator

Well Seven Delica's in one spot has to be a mini meet !!

Pics to follow and a little write up from some one !

Off for a shower to warm up !
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 20:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right....

This all started as an idea to get a "deal" off sock by having a load of Delica's camchains done at once...

the plan was we would each prepare our own vehicle and Sock would then do the chain fit the rocker cover and then we each reassembled our vehicle !

I have not got a pic of everyone at once due to space...

we did all this at my house ! we can fit 2 on the drive... so we sort of took over the cul-de-sac.....
(NB: This was when mark lived in Liverpool, prior to moving to China - Mod)

My neighbours must love me !

(unfortunately Strangerovers photos no longer work, but those further down the page, By Carstairs, do. Admin)


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y299/strangerover/Delica/chaingang/PB230991.jpg

the weather was not the best shall we say....

so we had to rig up some kind of shelter...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y299/strangerover/Delica/chaingang/PB230992.jpg

Here is Lewis wondering what sock is up to... (that would be some work Lewis  Wink )
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this is how sock spent the day...

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Tonkatruck was more like this all day...(feel free to suggest what he was saying ??)
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So timing chain....

some highlights of the job....

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of course every job needs a grinder  Shocked

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I think there will be more shots along to fill in the gaps....

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Started at 8am....!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 21:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done  Laughing  Laughing
Seven chains in one day, its got to be a record. Took me all day to do mine.(okay i did do the guides and take the front of the engine off but still). Big round of applause, hope you didn't get too wet. Were there any problems encountered through the day. Question
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 22:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

got back 7.10pm hold up on the motorway big up to mark for the day had a laugh on the way but the biggest thank you must go to lyn not only did she put up with nine blokes treading dirt through her kitchen put she was on hand with cups of tea, but also breakfast and dinner for all. you have a good'un there mark. and to all you other boys it was good to meet you all  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 22:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile
Smile Well what a day !!!

Big thank you to Sock and his dad for fantastic job  Wink

Big thank you to Mark for my extra spring job ...much higher now mate ...

Big thank you to Andyj for his Tps adjustment ...

And Lynn for putting up with all of us and feeding us toast ,tea and dinner ...thanks ..enjoy your wine and chocs  Wink

I don't no about everybody else but i really enjoyed the day despite the weather ...

Sorry i couldn't stay any longer but had to get back ..how did the turbo adjustment go any better ?

Coming back on the motorway my Deli was puuuuuuurrring like a kitten what difference !! Really chuffed with the truck Wink


Looking forward to next week now  Wink


Dave    ..........P.s the bit was still wedged in my eye when i got home .. i have just measured it ...8mm long by 1mm wide !!! but been a true Yorkshire man i kept going  Wink


As for photo of me (thanks Mark) lol ....what i was saying is " should i have worn my red hat instead of my black one ?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 22:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

(this is how sock spent his day) that's not me mark ,thats lewis
keith Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 22:48    Post subject: my photos Reply with quote

Have already posted thankyou's in chat forum.
Here are my photographs:
Deliberately left full size.
Feel free to use them in a how to if you want Marc or Lewis.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 22:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

sock wrote:
(this is how sock spent his day) that's not me mark ,thats lewis
keith Wink


Wasn't me either!  It was Carstairs.  Wink

My thoughts are the same as everyone elses.

Thanks to Sock and his Dad for the work!!  8-)

Many thanks to Lynn for the Tea & Toast, Tea and Biscuits, Tea and Sausage, Eggs, Beans and Toast, and Biscuits.

Dave (Tonkatruck) and I had fun on the way home and couldn't get over how our Deli's sailed up and over the Pennines at Windy Hill to Yorkshire.  Dave almost had to apply for a pilots licence!  Laughing

I didn't get the chance to take any photo's this time, I was too busy thinking about Sock using the angle grinder on my engine,  :?  Sparks all over the place Twisted Evil .
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it was wet, cold, hailstoning, wet,  hailstoning, and somewhere in between it was wet, hailstoning, cold and wet  Shocked  but what a day............. camchain fitted, big thanks to Sock, and Mr Sock senior, patience of saints, big thanks to Andy j, for TPS adjustment, BIG thanks to Mark, for organising it all, BUT, BIGGEST THANKS OF ALL TO LYN (i hope i've spelt your name right) for the food and cups of tea/coffee, ................. and no one offered to help with the washing up  Embarassed , a very productive and enjoyable day,...........does anybody know a cure for trench foot ???? ...........Greg nice meeting you mate, I love your sense of humour mate, ps your photos are spot on mate
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing we all noticed...

none of us had a chuffing noise...

all of us had our tensioners open to the point were changing the chain was a good idea before chuffing occured...

New chain and the engine was smoother and the engine had more go in it !

So thanks for making our Deli's better Sock... and I'd recommend a chain change to anyone who is planning on keeping their Delica's for any length of time.

Just like a vehicle with a cambelt.. you change them to be sure.. I'd from now on do the same with a timing chain....

When doing the chain, its the perfect time to set and adjust your TPS, kick down cable and a couple of washers under the turbo wastegate bolts  Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 13:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

steve lucky wrote:
...........does anybody know a cure for trench foot ???? ...........


There is only one:-

Dry your feet and change your socks, at least 3 times a day!

Do not like many misbegotten souls, or should that be soles, wear a plastic bag over your socks inside your boots.

That will only make your feet sweat and worsen the condition.
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 21:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have done this job today and rectified a major cock up along the way, so thought I would share the results here.

Firstly Socks instructions in combination with the pictures in this thread are a good guide as to what is required.

Secondly you don't need an angle grinder to cut the chain, a dremel and grinding stone are more than adequate but a lot less spectacular!!!

Thirdly, if you make the following cock up here is how I rectified it. Once the chain was threaded through somehow I had managed to develop some slack on the tensioned side of the chain (LHS fom front, I suspect that the cam over rotated whilst turning the engine over by hand and simply turning it back would have sorted it but I managed to make it worse) in trying to rectify that I caused a bigger problem I managed to misalign the camshaft relative to the crank. After lots of swearing and sitting down to think about it (4m40 manual in hand) I could see that there are only two cogs involved and I reasoned (correctly) that as long as the timing marks on the crank (I used three rather than one, much easier to see small errors) are in the correct place and the chain pulled good and tight either side but well clear of the cam shaft cog, then the cam can be moved independently back to TDC and your timing will be correct (you can't go to far either way becaue you will get the valves hitting the piston and locking the engine). It is also perfectly okay with the chain tensioner removed to rotate the engine backwards this will be necessary to get the two chain cogs back into the correct alignment (bearing in mind that the chain is still split at this point) I turned the engine over by hand a few dozen times to be sure that it didn't lock up. Fired up fine first time and no metal on metal drama! Whilst I wouldn't recommend doing it this way, if you get yourself in a jam and lose the relationship between the cam and crank it is certainly one way of sorting it out.
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 21:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well seven happy souls and thats not a bad thing but why does Deli= rain plus i had to look at those pictures from behind the settee anything mechanical and oily scares the shlit out of me.
Happy non chuff chuff motoring all.
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