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Minor fluid leak - help identifying if oil or AT


 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 14:33    Post subject: Minor fluid leak - help identifying if oil or AT Reply with quote

Hey all,

I've noticed that the sump (transmission sump or engine sump?) under my Delii perhaps has a small leak from somewhere. In the picture below am I looking at the transmission sump?

It has oil or AT fluid on the outside and also on the small pipe that connects to it. I can't tell if it is oil or AT as it has already 'burnt' and is very viscous now. Wiping it off there are some small areas of pink so could be AT but not sure. Looking at the oil dipstick it is not losing oil. Looking at AT dipstick it has perhaps been overfilled with AT - could this cause a small leak? There are never any drips on the ground - just the coating on the sump.

Any thoughts anyone?



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it dripping onto the floor or just wet to look at?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taste it to compare

I know.... But AT tastes sweeter than engine oil. Could also be a slight diesel leak?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

He says there's never any drips on the ground. I'd suggest completely cleaning off the sump to then see where any new oil is coming from. If it's clean oil, you'll be able to tell what colour it is.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 16:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyman wrote:
He says there's never any drips on the ground.


So he does  Mad

In that case ignore it, i would  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 17:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's my general principle with oil leaks, unless accompanied by more sinister symptoms. Deli has had damp blackness on back of engine since day one, 11 years ago. If I ever need to lift the cam cover, I'll deal with it then! As it still uses less than 1/2L between oil changes, it's the least of my problems.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 14:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all for the replies. I cleaned off the sump after I posted and after only a few days the oil is back again - looks again like my original picture. For sure now it is engine oil. Monitoring the levels it does seem to be losing but still not enough to drip on the ground

Oct 30th:


Nov 5th:


Looks like it is coming from higher up......what is the small black pipe that comes into the sump (in my original photo), as it seems to be dripping down along that. Are there any obvious places to look higher up?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 16:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

richjp wrote:
.... .what is the small black pipe that comes into the sump (in my original photo), as it seems to be dripping down along that. Are there any obvious places to look higher up?


Hmm.. Good question.  Let's see..  

What is long and thin enough to fit into a long thin tube that goes into an oil sump; Possibly a tube that comes in two halves, from the top of the engine and joined together using a small 'O' ring as a seal.....  Question
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 16:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 16:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay I can check that seal but seems unlikely as a source for a leak no?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 18:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leak is the rocker cover gasket
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 19:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still under sales warranty so took it back to where I got her. How big a job is rocket gasket replacement on a 3.0l V6 (they are saying 5 hours)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow!
Glad I have a 2.8TD - It takes less than an hour.  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - so I hear - quick job on a diesel, painful job on a petrol.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 18:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lewis wrote:
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Glad I have a 2.8TD - It takes less than an hour.  Very Happy

Including coffee/tea break.
Full degrease, and paint the cover  Wink

I did two this year -  Mine, and another members 2.8

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