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andyman
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 5602 Location: Penrith
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:44 Post subject: |
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I have a very similar solution on my cage to enable the bigger tyre to fit, but it doesn't help lifting the cage onto the hook. I'm thinking of a shaped flat bar that hooks over the forward cradle cross-bar, (on mine, there are two which make a crossing), with a pin welded through the flat bar to locate in the crossing. With the cradle down, this pin would be engaged in the crossing, having slid the bar in from the near side, at around 45deg. The flat bar would then be rotated horizontally, sliding underneath the rear cradle bar into a longitudinal position, then lifted, lifting the whole tyre and cradle onto the hook. I don't have a tow-bar, but a slightly more sophisticated, and permanently attached version of the basic idea might work. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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annek
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 613 Location: Brighton, East Sussex
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 20:00 Post subject: |
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Rope Deker, yes! Probs much easier than bothering with the bottle jack.
Also, yes I use the wheel lever to help manoeuvre the wheel into the cage after I'd jacked up the rear to get better access to roll it in as far as I could.
With my tow bar, which I fitted after purchase, I doubt there's room for having extra flat lengths inserted.
I am bothered by its look though, being so very rusty.
But my spare is an original wheel, so it's not outsize for the cage, actually well within. |
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Deker
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 3833 Location: Borehamwood
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 21:25 Post subject: |
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annek wrote: |
With my tow bar, which I fitted after purchase.
I am bothered by its look though, being so very rusty. |
Rust is something I can sort, with my shot blasting equipment.
You supply Etch Primer and top coat colour of your choice in rattle cans.
Can be done in one nice sunny day. Tow bar off, blasted, painted, time out for food (to let paint dry) re-fitted.
Will need cash for running expenses = Diesel (for compressor) grit, and electricity (for lights N fan dust extraction)
- < 4 litres of Diesel would cover all expenses.
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annek
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 613 Location: Brighton, East Sussex
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 23:29 Post subject: |
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Good to know, its not on the top of my long list right now though. |
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annek
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 613 Location: Brighton, East Sussex
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:38 Post subject: |
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There needs to be castors on the cage and the cage needs to detach fully, so the wheel can be easily put into the cage (its a lot of a struggle to locate a wheel inside an angled hanging cage and line it up properly, all underneath the vehicle ).
It then needs to have casters to ease it's slide back under the car, and hanging hooks that can then be winched up to pull the wheel close to the body of the car, or hydraulic bars.
The cage arrangement is incongruous with the spec of the rest, as Andyman says. |
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YOZA
Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 2423 Location: The centre of the universe
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:50 Post subject: |
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holts-tyreweld puncture repair kit
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annek
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 613 Location: Brighton, East Sussex
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 16:11 Post subject: |
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Is this you telling us to throw away the spares.Yoza?
Does that even work on tyres this size under this much load? |
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Deker
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 3833 Location: Borehamwood
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 19:02 Post subject: |
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annek wrote: |
Does that even work on tyres this size under this much load? |
These types of tyre inflator/seal will work on any tyre -
PROVIDING that the tyre bead has not parted company with the wheel rim.
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annek
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 613 Location: Brighton, East Sussex
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 22:12 Post subject: |
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Oh righty.
Have you ever used one on a Deli tyre deker? |
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16298 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 23:39 Post subject: |
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I have!
I keep two in my Deli tool kit should I need that sort of 'get my harris out of trouble quick' repair.
I.E. when in a place where the jack and spare wheel cannot be used. _________________
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annek
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 613 Location: Brighton, East Sussex
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 13:28 Post subject: |
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Do you have a couple because you need two for a repair on such big tyres? |
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YOZA
Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 2423 Location: The centre of the universe
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 13:57 Post subject: |
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Annek it is used as a temporary fix to get you out of trouble.
It is not a permanent fix, also you should note that ‘most’ tyre repair garages won’t fix a puncture which has had a tyre weld product used in it, as the product needs to be cleaned out of the tyre and they often won’t do it.
It is basically a rubberised glue that sets/cures inside the tyre and blocks the leak. _________________ Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.... |
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annek
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 613 Location: Brighton, East Sussex
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 15:02 Post subject: |
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Yeah I realise what it does, I asked how many as I've no experience of it being used and Lewis does |
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Green Grouch Lifetime member
Joined: 14 Feb 2012 Posts: 1264 Location: Dorset
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 22:27 Post subject: |
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This will be interesting for me as I have no spare, lpg tank in its place.
My old man always used to say the tyre guys hate this stuff, but, that was 30years ago.
Surely a tenner extra would convince them?? . _________________ A Little Knowledge is Dangerous and expensive! especially if your me Mending anything!! |
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16298 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:10 Post subject: |
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annek wrote: |
Yeah I realise what it does, I asked how many as I've no experience of it being used and Lewis does |
I carry two in case:-
1. More than one tyre go - as in when you go up an offroad lane to find some prat has put a long plank full of 6" nails in a deep puddle, as they don't like offroaders.
2. The tyre goes down before I get to a safe enough place to change the spare over. _________________
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YOZA
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:03 Post subject: |
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Lewis wrote: |
1. More than one tyre go - as in when you go up an offroad lane to find some prat has put a long plank full of 6" nails in a deep puddle, as they don't like offroaders.
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That’s not very nice of them, let’s hope they/or members of their family never need a rescue vehicle in an emergency as it may be spiked and not reach them in time.
Whilst on this subject I also carry a puncture plugging kit that uses a roll of rubber that looks like liquorice, a large needle on a T bar the size of a tent peg and a tube of rubber glue. You thread the liquorice through the needle and smoother it with glue, you then insert it into the puncture and turn the T bar then pull the T bar out, the liquorice plugs the hole, then you trim off the access. I have used this only once on a beach in Anglesey and it worked really well. _________________ Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.... |
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andyman
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 5602 Location: Penrith
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 14:44 Post subject: |
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I have used two different types of puncture seal aerosol kits. One is a fluid that you put into the tyre(s) before you ever get a puncture, which I used on motorbikes. The canister doesn't have gas in it to re-inflate the tyre, but will seal a leak in the tread area as soon as it happens, with minimal loss of pressure, saving the rider from being thrown off (as happened to me when the rear tyre valve ripped off the inner tube, something no instant seal can save you from!) two is the type you put into the tyre after discovering and removing the puncturing object, and contain enough gas to put enough pressure into your tyre so that you can drive to a safer place to change the wheel. Many modern cars are supplied with these and no spare wheel, as a get-you-home, or get-you-to-a-tyre-shop. I have used one on a 13" car tyre, it put around 15Psi in the tyre, enough to limp home without damaging the rim. So you'd probably need two of these to re-inflate a Delica tyre sufficient to drive on if you don't carry a pump. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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annek
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 613 Location: Brighton, East Sussex
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 16:31 Post subject: |
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Yoza wrote: |
Whilst on this subject I also carry a puncture plugging kit that uses a roll of rubber that looks like liquorice, a large needle on a T bar the size of a tent peg and a tube of rubber glue. You thread the liquorice through the needle and smoother it with glue, you then insert it into the puncture and turn the T bar then pull the T bar out, the liquorice plugs the hole, then you trim off the access. I have used this only once on a beach in Anglesey and it worked really well. |
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YOZA
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 17:38 Post subject: |
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There you go - they do posher kits but this does the job.
Punture repair kit _________________ Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.... |
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16298 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:41 Post subject: |
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I bought this one, which is a bit cheaper:-
Cheaper 30 piece Puncture repair kit _________________
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