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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 20:53    Post subject: Kilometres not miles Reply with quote

I thought once a Jap import had come into the country it legally had to have its speedo converted to MPH?

Mine is still in KPH and, although I've not measured it yet, I suspect the odometer is still counting up in kilometres too...  Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 21:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

No!

With the analogue dials it would mean replacing the dial face with an imperial one.

Those that have imperial ones, such as mine, with a Lockwood dial replacement, have been replaced by the owners.

Some have been chipped to read in imperial, but it can be expensive, so a replacement dial is far cheaper

Just ensure you that you tell the MoT tester that the reading is in Km's, so he can set the computer to indicate it.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 21:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh right okay,
Learn something new every day!

We don't have an MOT over here, it will have to go in for a "road worthiness" test, but this is just a one off when you bring a vehicle in from the UK.
No yearly tests like the MOT after that...

i'll make sure I tell the test centre when I take it up there.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 21:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear, just Googled the Lockwood dials, they look lovely!

Thats another thing I want to buy now (don't tell the missus!)
Are they easy to change or is it a garage job?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 22:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy, though finiky, to do, providing you can get hold of one. †Wink

But these are getting popular:-White dials
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also changed to the white dials with back-light when I wanted to change from KPH.

Didn't realise they needed wiring up when I bought a set but not too difficult. About half an hour job if you know what you are doing. Involved removing dash surround, adding dials and locating a power source that lights with the main lights. (I used the dimmer switch after finding my fog light power wasn't okay)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 16:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay thanks for the info.
Re the Lockwood ones, is it just a case of placing the new dials over the old KPH ones and doing nothing else?
If so, won't the speedo needle still be going up in KPH not MPH.

Sorry if there is something I'm obviously missing here!  Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 18:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

The needle moves the same, but it points at a different scale - MPH not KPH
You place over the existing dials, but need to wire in the back lighting as the dials will block the normal dash back lights. okay during the day, but unreadable at night.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 18:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

You first have to remove the old dials, then fit the new one, otherwise you won't get any light coming through.

The needles will still register as they did before, but the dials will show it in mph, rather than kph.

The digital readout of the total and trip miles covered is in Kilometres.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 14:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all,

Just been told by our vehicle test centre on the phone that the vehicle will fail if it has a KPH speedo...  Sad
So it looks like I'm buying dials this weekend.

Just spent a fortune on garage bill getting the cambelt changed and a full service, so would like to tackle it myself.
Are there any guides anywhere for getting the old one out and the new one in?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks as ever Lewis...

I think more the problem is I don't even know where to start getting that part of the dashboard off.
Would that be in the instructions too?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lower the steering column as much as possible for better access.

Undo the bolt under the steering column surround to get it off.

Undo the two bolts going up into the grey dash surround, above the display panel and lift off the surround.

Prise forward the switches to allow you to undo the connectors.

You will see four bolts holding the display panel in, undo those and tilt it forward to get access to disconnect the wiring looms.

The clear plastic cover is held in place by sections of the plastic going through the white holder. Those just press out.

This photo will help you see where the connectors go:-


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, you really are a Delica Legend Lewis, thankyou so much!

I have ordered just the replacement black speedo dial from Lockwood.
Might upgrade to the full set of white dials at a later stage but i just want to get everything done as easily and cheaply as possible for now.

I'll be more confident in giving it a go now when it arrives, great stuff...

Then I just need to sort my ABS sensors and expansion tank and all will be good.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

This will give you an idea of what it should look like with all the covers off and a MPH dial in:-


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

That pic shows the speedo and rev counter as one item.
The dial I have ordered is only the speedo, so I take it I put it over what is already there?
And do you just feed the needle through the centre hole without taking it off?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dial should come with some instructions and possibly some replacement stop pins.

Just take your time and don't remove the needles, then you won't need to recalibrate them.  Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

enCrypt wrote:
Thanks all,

Just been told by our vehicle test centre on the phone that the vehicle will fail if it has a KPH speedo... †Sad



They are wrong, my speedo dial is in Kph but with the L300 gear converter reads in Mph!!.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 22:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Ian

I'm in the Isle of Man so different laws over here!
Its only a one off test for any cars brought in over 3 yrs old, then no yearly test at all like the UK MOT...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just like the Falkland Islands then, I had an L300 Chamonix when I was working down there.
That's what got me into Delicas in the first place.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 14:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right my Lockwood MPH dial has arrived.
As suspected it is just the speedo, not speedo and rev counter combined like the pic above so hopefully I don't have to cut out the old one first...  Confused

No instructions either, so there may be questions when I try to fit it at the weekend!
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