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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 16:38    Post subject: Waxoyle/Underseal. Reply with quote

okay so, we have been advised to get the underneath of the Delica undersealed/Waxoyled. Fair enough. So, can anyone recommend a garage, individual or whatever, to carry out these works? preferably in the Sussex area but, I know that might be wishful thinking!! I have been in touch with a couple of local paint shops but, they say its too specialist!??! Either that or they just Can't be bothered!! Anyway, if anyone knows of anywhere.........muchos gracias.

Pete'  8-)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 20:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

See my advice here - http://www.MDOCUK.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=393522#393522

I could do it - - - - - - - - - But I would need a lot of persuading, 'cos its bl--dy hard work  Shocked

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 16:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mr D.  Thanks for your reply mate. So, is that what happens, you just drill 16mm holes and spray away?? How many holes and do you actually use waxoyle anywhere or, is it the magic veggie oil and thinners  Smile.  One "specialist" in Haywards Heath, actually quoted me around £1,500.00. (yeah. Right!!) and said that he masks everything up and sprays the lot what's left to spray. Then he fills all the box sections etc with waxoyle.  What do you think about that Mr D?? I think its bloody robbery  Shocked !!  How long would it take you to do and, what dosh would I be looking at?? Many thanks mukka!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I re-did mine, a couple of months ago, it cost me £25 for a 5L can of waxoyl and 45 minutes of my time.  :D
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 22:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was that only for a "surface" application  Question
Or did you get inside the chassis box sections  Question

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 22:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anti Hero wrote:
you just drill 16mm holes and spray away?? How many holes and do you actually use waxoyle anywhere or, is it the magic veggie oil and thinners  Smile.  and said that he masks everything up and sprays the lot what's left to spray. Then he fills all the box sections etc with waxoyle.  What do you think about that Mr D?? I think its bloody robbery  Shocked !!  How long would it take you to do and, what dosh would I be looking at?? Many thanks

Pete'  8-)

Holes = Not that many, just where I think it's critical, as in parts that that would be awkward to get at by "other routes"

but its bloomin hard work, the metal is quite tough, I had to buy a 1 kilowatt drill to drill the holes.
My old 1/2 kilowatt drill was not up to the job  Sad

As for masking, I didn't see the need for that, the sprayed fluid is Inside the chassis box sections,
I keep spraying till the "mist" emanates from the chassis  Rolling Eyes

Time wise, is about 2 days. (You work it out as to cost, reasonable offers considered)
Has to be done at my place, my electric 14 CFM compressor is far too heavy to transport.
It has two electric motors on it  Shocked

Delica camping may be done on my drive. All facilities available.

Alternatively, if you have a large compressor, drive for Delica camping and outside loo, I could come to your place.
Travelling expenses would be extra - You know the cost of running a Delica  Shocked

Having said that (about the compressor) I do have a mini portable that should be "up to the job"
I used it last year to spray a car, it coped okay with that.
So I could come to your place - providing you have a drive to work on.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deker wrote:
Was that only for a "surface" application  Question
Or did you get inside the chassis box sections  Question


Surface of course, I'm too big to get inside the holes, plus as the insides of the chassis will already be rusted, due to the age of the vehicle, it's pointless wasting money doing inside them and potentially holding moisture under the wax.

There is still the possibility of rusty sections requiring welding, even if they have been treated; and I wouldn't want to try welding anywhere that a flammable waxy/oily substance has been applied inside, that I couldn't first steam clean off.  Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 14:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thanks for that Mr D. Well worth considering. Apart from the box sections being filled with waxoyle, what happens about all the underneath surface areas, do they get undersealed/painted with anything? I think that the £1500 bloke said he would do the whole of the underneath of the truck. Many thanks.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1) Surface of course, I'm too big to get inside the holes, plus as the insides of the chassis will already be rusted, due to the age of the vehicle,

2) it's pointless wasting money doing inside them and potentially holding moisture under the wax.

3) There is still the possibility of rusty sections requiring welding, even if they have been treated; and I wouldn't want to try welding anywhere that a flammable waxy/oily substance has been applied inside, that I couldn't first steam clean off.  Wink

1) You're Too big to get inside, I believe you  Wink   I use a Sealey gun designed for the job  Smile
Yes, the inside/s will be rusted.

2) The chassis MUST be dry, therefore there should be non or very little moisture in there.
I think/hope that the oil would displace moisture.
I use a long probe magnet tool to extract rusty bits inside the chassis, then one can see/feel if it is damp.

3) The fluid I use dries to a tough finish, if/when welding is needed the stuff would chuck out smoke and carbon black the welding.
Granted, making it difficult to weld.

Please bear in mind the expression "Rust Prevention" not rust proofing.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 16:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Mr D. A very informative reply and certainly gives me something to think about. Is there a preferable time of year to carry this procedure out? I'm guessing the Summer months? Smile. Also, do you have a rough cost in mind? You can pm me if you prefer. Thanks mate.

Pete'.  8-)
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