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Wheel removal: putting front wheels in gear


 
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Overland Hobo



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 15:37    Post subject: Wheel removal: putting front wheels in gear Reply with quote

Hi all

okay, firstly I'm massively embarrassed that I can't take my wheel off. So please be gentle.

I want to take the wheel off to replace brake pads like I have done many times before on manual non-4x4 motors in the past. To do that, I'd leave the car in gear so I can lever the socket without the wheel moving instead of the nut. Like most do.

How do you do that with an auto L400 Delica? I've tried it in drive, L, 2, and the various 4x4 modes to no joy.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers

Hobo
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 17:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and to clarify, I also tried Park or P and the front wheels just spun freely.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 17:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loosen the wheel nuts with it on the ground, then jack it up and take the wheel off.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 17:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the wheel on the ground sorry
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 18:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please let somebody else do your brakes.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 18:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a diy topic  Smile iv asked some embarrassing questions on here so don't let that put you asking again  :D
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 18:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

sl8ter wrote:
Loosen the wheel nuts with the on the ground, then jack it up and take the wheel off.


Thanks for your response.

I considered this, which would be fine taking the wheel off. But using the same approach to put it back on made me wonder if it would be partial to damage to the tread if not careful. Do you do this and all okay?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 18:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

YOZA wrote:
Please let somebody else do your brakes.

:D


Thanks for your response.

If everyone took that approach in life, there would not be anyone who could do it for them, brakes or otherwise. But thanks for the input :D
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 18:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overland Hobo wrote:
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if it would be partial to damage to the tread if not careful.

Don't be silly, the forces you could apply by hand are micro peanuts, as compared to driving, cornering & braking  Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 18:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deker wrote:
Overland Hobo wrote:
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if it would be partial to damage to the tread if not careful.

Don't be silly, the forces you could apply by hand are micro peanuts, as compared to driving, cornering & braking  Wink

Mr D


okay, I'll do it. Thanks for help Smile

I'm new to autos and just thought there would be a way of leaving the front two in gear, obvs not.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 19:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every vehicle I've worked on, always had wheels on ground to "Crack" the nuts.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 21:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

As yoza said or suggested, get some help, at least once to be shown.

Please don't take that as bad but if you can't fathom out removing a wheel and have to ask that sort of question then brakes are a definite no no for yourself.  Sad



They are heavy lumps and don't stop easily and can do lots of damage.  Sad

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 21:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you Do want to lift the wheel while cracking the nuts, the gearbox will need to be in P, and the transfer box in 4HC or 4LC before you switch off the engine. That way, both the gearbox and transfer diff are locked. But you will need the opposite wheel on the ground, or it will simply rotate the other way. Keeping the wheel on the ground while 'cracking' the nuts, as others have said, is the best way.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 23:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can undo and remove my wheel nuts with the Deli off the ground in seconds, as demonstrated to some members at the last Coniston Meeting;  but only because I have an 18v Impact Wrench using 400Nm of Torque.   :D

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0177CI5J6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Something else to remember is that at times the wheels get stuck to the Hub, so if you need to remove it, i.e. When changing the wheels around, and it won't budge, just stand back and give it a sharp hefty thump with the bottom of your foot.  Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks fellers

I've changed pads over 10 times by now, never on the ground but i've never been shown on a car. Guess you learn something every day.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green Grouch wrote:
As yoza said or suggested, get some help, at least once to be shown.

Please don't take that as bad but if you can't fathom out removing a wheel and have to ask that sort of question then brakes are a definite no no for yourself.  Sad

They are heavy lumps and don't stop easily and can do lots of damage.  Sad

Seriously....


While i appreciate your concern, do you not think it's a little condescending or rude. I've changed a lot of pads (albeit not using a standard way of taking off the wheel), several times as many on bikes.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do put the wheel back on then tighten the wheels nuts as tight as I can then put the wheel back on the ground (axle stands removed) then tighten them fully. Don't be put off with the banter on here we are all here to help in some way or other
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 20:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overland Hobo wrote:
Green Grouch wrote:
As yoza said or suggested, get some help, at least once to be shown.

Please don't take that as bad but if you can't fathom out removing a wheel and have to ask that sort of question then brakes are a definite no no for yourself.  Sad

They are heavy lumps and don't stop easily and can do lots of damage.  Sad

Seriously....


While i appreciate your concern, do you not think it's a little condescending or rude. I've changed a lot of pads (albeit not using a standard way of taking off the wheel), several times as many on bikes.


I'm really sorry if I've upset you and i'm certainly not being rude.

HOWEVER - asking the questions you have - show that you should be very careful playing around with brakes.

You can't work out how to remove the wheel yourself and then talk about partial tread damage - undoing the wheel nuts on the ground with a 2 ton something vehicle..

really!

Please don't call me condescending or rude.

I don't want to be infront of you when you can't stop!!

No need to retaliate to this. I'm not going to respond back again.

just have a think about what you have written and asked and be sure on what your doing..
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