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ACE DELI Lifetime member
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1051 Location: Wherever our canal narrow boat takes us...at 3MPH max.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:46 Post subject: Are you legal to tow ? |
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Hi
A bit of a legal warning to all you 'Youngsters' (I'm over 50 so it doesn't apply to me)
If you passed your driving test after 1st Jan 1997 then you are restricted on what you can drive. If you have B plus E on your licence then you can legally drive an outfit (Vehicle and trailer) exceeding 3.5 tonnes (up to 7.5 Tonnes). This was automatically granted if you passed your test prior to 1/1/97 but the only way to get it if you are post 1/1/97 is to take an additional test ie. HGV test.
As a Deli weighs in at about 2.25 Tonnes (unladen) the maximum trailer you can tow is 1.25 Tonnes. You must remember that any passengers, luggage, fuel etc in the vehicle increases the towing vehicle weight and anything in the trailer also increases that weight. The combined weight of Deli and trailer MUST NOT EXCEED 3.5 Tonnes or you will be illegal and make yourself liable to prosecution and also have invalid insurance. As most caravans get close to or exceed this weight limit (except the micro lightweight ones) you can risk prosecution.
Please check your licence for your driving classifications before towing. BE SAFE NOT SORRY.
Cheers
David _________________ DavidandAnn - ACE Deli
Black over Silver - PE8W - Now with white not yellow fog lights, Lexus lights and the most important, a YD in the screen. Sadly now sold. |
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hillbilly Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:18 Post subject: |
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Good post Dave,one advantage us oldies have
Bill _________________ Blue/Silver L200 4Life |
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Mystery Machine
Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 1837 Location: Bristol
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:28 Post subject: |
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OMG....That makes me an oldie! _________________ '93 L300 Mystery Machine (Now in the hands of a new owner)
'94 L300 Mud Monkey (Post Apolcalyptic Edition )
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steve b
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 475 Location: WIRRAL
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:12 Post subject: |
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I've got a hgv class one (no smug B'stard smiley face availible) |
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Mystery Machine
Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 1837 Location: Bristol
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:57 Post subject: |
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Is that better?? _________________ '93 L300 Mystery Machine (Now in the hands of a new owner)
'94 L300 Mud Monkey (Post Apolcalyptic Edition )
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PinkPig Lifetime member
Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 2720 Location: Southampton, UK
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Tinca Lifetime member
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 241 Location: LEEDS, West Riding of Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 20:36 Post subject: |
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I've got a hgv class one |
Ha ha I have a WC & Chain _________________ Happiness is being owned by a Jack Russell Terrier! |
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steve b
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 475 Location: WIRRAL
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:27 Post subject: |
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sarcastic so 'n' so's |
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rabskyline
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 52 Location: BRISBANE NORTH SIDE !!
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:54 Post subject: |
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must be an oldie or he would have said...." i have a C+E" |
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steve b
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 475 Location: WIRRAL
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 13:43 Post subject: |
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C+E, LGV, whatever........... i dunno can't get away with anything on here , so now you know i'm an oldie, 44 going on 17. :D |
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safetyman73 Lifetime member
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 466 Location: Devon Sat - Sun Oxford Mon - Fri working away
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jennysteve
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 346 Location: WIRRAL
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 18:49 Post subject: |
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hey safetyman 73, so have i.
we been used to playing with big boys toys. _________________ L400 GREEN OVER GREY 2.8 TD CRYSTALITE ROOF.BORN TO LIVE..BORN TO DRIVE..
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Rusty Site Admin
Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 3358 Location: Hampshire/Dorset border!
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I've got a 25 metre breast stroke certificate somewhere :? :knob: _________________
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THE KICK INSIDE
Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 1592 Location: Staffordshire
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Carefull rusty you can get your face slapped for practising that one..... _________________ A Delica - ITS LIKE A SWEDISH BRICK...ONLY BIGGER! |
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dixie
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 400 Location: near glasgow.
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:04 Post subject: |
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i have a C+E HGV for the last 20 year does that make me an oldie?
dixie..... _________________ better thought a fool.....than speak and remove all doubt. |
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bentos
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 179 Location: North Newbald, North Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:19 Post subject: |
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This is on the direct.gov.uk website:
The driving licence you need to tow a caravan or trailer
Towing trailers or caravans with vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes
Car licences held before 1 January 1997
All drivers who passed a car test before 1 January 1997 retain their existing entitlement to tow trailers until their licence expires. This means they are generally entitled to drive a vehicle and trailer combination up to 8.25 tonnes MAM. They also have entitlement to drive a minibus with a trailer over 750kgs MAM.
Drivers who hold subcategory C1+E - limited to 8.25 tonnes MAM, may apply for provisional entitlement to the new subcategory C1+E, in order to take and pass the test which will increase their combined vehicle and trailer entitlement to 12 tonnes MAM. It is not necessary to gain subcategory C1 entitlement first but drivers have to meet higher medical standards, and pass both the category C theory test and the subcategory C1+E practical test.
Car driving licence first obtained since 1 January 1997
Drivers who passed a car test on or after 1 January 1997 are required to pass an additional driving test in order to gain entitlement to category B+E and all larger vehicles. In addition to the new driving tests, drivers of vehicles which fall within subcategories C1, C1+E, D1 and D1+E also have to meet higher medical standards.
Driving License Codes _________________ Paul Bentley
www.cautionovercrest.com
www.venomprotruck.com
www.delicamods.co.uk
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Munfred Lifetime member
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 19:28 Post subject: |
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Did my B+E back in February this year. With lessons it cost me a little over £1000 including the test and the retest Driving the school minibus they teach you to drive extremely passively pulling in at every possible moment and driving smoothly. To pass the B+E you have to drive as I see quite agressively.
It is basically like the HGV test but without the medical. You have to do stuff like reverse it in an S shape into a garage, reverse so you can which without needing to move the trailer etc etc.
Definately wouldn't have been able to pass without the lessons and opportunity to practice the manouvres. |
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Fostlongstrider Lifetime member
Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 2590 Location: Hedon, East Yorks
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I have Groups A,B,BE,B1,C1,C1E,D1,D1E,f,k,l,n,p
Had these groups since 1975 when changed licence, before that had Car, manual and auto, Motorcycle and lawnmower. _________________ Ian.
All the best from the East Riding of Yorkshire.
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s4m
Joined: 04 Feb 2012 Posts: 17 Location: Midlands
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 13:23 Post subject: |
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Can anyone recommend somewhere in the midlands that does the b&e test, been meaning to do it for a while and may need to tow a bigger trailer which will require it soon.
Thanks,
Sam. |
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ACE DELI Lifetime member
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1051 Location: Wherever our canal narrow boat takes us...at 3MPH max.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:22 Post subject: |
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I would suggest trying Yellow Pages or something similar (or search online) for a local instructor.
Cheers
David _________________ DavidandAnn - ACE Deli
Black over Silver - PE8W - Now with white not yellow fog lights, Lexus lights and the most important, a YD in the screen. Sadly now sold.
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