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jejoenje
Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 785 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:34 Post subject: brake caliper - replace or refurb? |
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So in the midst of disassembling much of the front suspension, I've got my front brake caliper(s) off.
Piston and dust boot looking rather iffy? Is it worth trying to source a rebuild kit? Or better to just find a new caliper altogether? Perhaps even L400/Shogun one as per here?
Worth noting I wasn't getting any problems (as far as I know) with the brakes, no binding or anything, but braking power has never been brilliant...
_________________ 1992 L300 Exceed "Selma" |
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Fostlongstrider Lifetime member
Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 2590 Location: Hedon, East Yorks
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:37 Post subject: |
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Try Milners, I got one from them a few years ago for £77, fitted straight on to Mitsi FI no problems.
Send vehicle number with order so you get the right one. _________________ Ian.
All the best from the East Riding of Yorkshire.
'93 L300 Super Exceed Corse Gray over Grace Silver.Auto.
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jejoenje
Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 785 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:15 Post subject: |
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Thanks Ian, I don't think they have any anymore - at least not listed on the website. They have the L400 ones, though, more expensive... _________________ 1992 L300 Exceed "Selma" |
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CSMonkey
Joined: 05 Feb 2014 Posts: 377 Location: Exmouth
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 13:20 Post subject: |
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I refurbished my MX-5 calipers last summer with new seals. A lot cheaper than replacing the calipers. As long as the piston and barrel of the brake are still in good condition with no scratching or pitting then it should be a tidy job.
Having access to a compressed air line made removing the piston much easier as one was sticking.
I know the Deli is a little larger than the MX-5, but not that much.
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16298 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 15:29 Post subject: |
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jejoenje wrote: |
Thanks Ian, I don't think they have any anymore - at least not listed on the website. They have the L400 ones, though, more expensive... |
That is down to them having more components, the L400 has twin piston calipers on the front wheels. _________________
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Deker
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 3833 Location: Borehamwood
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 18:34 Post subject: Re: brake caliper - replace or refurb? |
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jejoenje wrote: |
So in the midst of disassembling much of the front suspension, I've got my front brake caliper(s) off.
Piston and dust boot looking rather iffy? Is it worth trying to source a rebuild kit? Or better to just find a new caliper altogether?
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If the calipers are good, personally I would rebuild. Done it loads O times
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jejoenje
Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 785 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 18:37 Post subject: |
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Thanks all. I might just give it a go. I do have some time on my hands after all, as with all the work that needs doing to poor old Selma she's likely to be off the road for a few months yet...
So - two further questions arise.
1. Can anyone suggest where I can buy rebuild kits for these calipers? I've had a Google around and can't find anything so any pointers greatly appreciated.
2. To get the piston out, is compressed air a necessity, or is there some alternative trick? _________________ 1992 L300 Exceed "Selma" |
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jejoenje
Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 785 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 18:39 Post subject: |
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Having said that though, I am tempted by fitting some L400 calipers... they do look rather sexy:
http://dinoevo.de/brake-upgrade/ _________________ 1992 L300 Exceed "Selma" |
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andyman
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 5602 Location: Penrith
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 18:56 Post subject: |
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Are the piston and slider gaiters intact, not split? Do they slide okay? Sliders are easy enough to clean up and service, pistons are a little bit more fiddly. Remember to use red brake grease, DON'T use copper grease - it dries up from the heat and makes things stick. Have your pads been wearing evenly - they'll be a good indicator of what is working properly? Did it always brake evenly? Probably the reason why Mitsubishi put twin pots on the L400 was that the L300 required more pedal pressure than modern drivers expected. But if they stop too quickly, the back end can lift off! Now I've serviced/fixed mine, I find them pleasantly progressive. If your calipers aren't leaking, new discs and pads might be a more effective buy. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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jejoenje
Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 785 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 19:43 Post subject: |
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andyman wrote: |
Are the piston and slider gaiters intact, not split? |
To be honest Andy, other than the piston itself, the dust boot on the piston is the thing I'm most concerned about... In one of the pics above you can see it has lifted slightly which causes me to worry it might not be very pretty in there... That, and the visible rust on the piston itself...
Slider and slider boots seem fine - sliding fine and as far as I know braking has always been even... on the front at least!
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But if they stop too quickly, the back end can lift off! |
Ha- yes, it can indeed. I have some experience...
I will be checking the rear brake business
Coincidentally, I've just answered one of my own questions from above
Found a piston refurb kit (new seals etc for both calipers) for £18, and new pistons (which I suspect might be needed) for £23 (both). All being well, that would be £41 for two refurbished calipers... Which, given the expected expense for everything I'm looking at, is very temting... _________________ 1992 L300 Exceed "Selma" |
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Green Grouch Lifetime member
Joined: 14 Feb 2012 Posts: 1264 Location: Dorset
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 19:56 Post subject: |
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Caliper piston tool
Very helpful tool. Fits my Deli calipers to pull the pistons out.
Shop around for a good price _________________ A Little Knowledge is Dangerous and expensive! especially if your me Mending anything!! |
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16298 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 20:44 Post subject: |
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jejoenje wrote: |
1. Can anyone suggest where I can buy rebuild kits for these calipers? |
Try Febest:- https://shop.febest.eu/catalog/braking-system.html?brand=MITSUBISHI&model=Delica&year=1992&body=P35W
As Andy said too much braking force on the front end will have you going nose down and potentially straight over if you do an emergency braking manoeuvre.
I'm not sure on the caliper carrier size on the L300, so you would need to check ithat an L400 unit bolts to the hub first.
HTH _________________
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jejoenje
Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 785 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 21:13 Post subject: |
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Mmh yes. Perhaps fiddling with L400 calipers is not as good an idea as I'd like it to be... As for fit, provided you swap the caliper carrier over,
apparently the swap is pretty straightforward, though.
Anyway - as above, I think cost alone is leading me towards the rebuild route of what I have.
Thanks for the links - I shall have a look. _________________ 1992 L300 Exceed "Selma" |
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skiorsail
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 758 Location: Cumbria
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 22:53 Post subject: |
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Brakeparts.co.UK. and Brakesint.co.UK are worth comparing with eBay for your brake parts. I keep spares for mine because you usually discover the pistons are rusty or the seal when you replace the pads, just be careful to get correct diameter. _________________ Delica chamonix PE8W 96.love at first sight.
Delica jasper PE8W 96 -green outside yellow inside - prev owner died smoke inhalation ?
plus Deli chamonix 2-at the price of a few months fuel who can resist. Plus toyota celica. |
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