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unclebazwold Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 16:56 Post subject: |
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Langley
Joined: 30 Jul 2013 Posts: 301 Location: Bristol
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 17:14 Post subject: |
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Large ones
Still at least I know how to do the job this time. _________________ Swb L400 blue and grey, 235/75 r15 at's, remote central locking, tow bar |
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andyman
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 5602 Location: Penrith
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 21:49 Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear that, I d too soon. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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Green Grouch Lifetime member
Joined: 14 Feb 2012 Posts: 1264 Location: Dorset
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 22:31 Post subject: |
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Langley wrote: |
Large ones
Still at least I know how to do the job this time. |
That's a real shame after all that work, time, research etc.
Do what I do and throw money at it and then educate others on how not to do it next time
You do sort of enjoy it though I bet ? Or you will when you do get it sorted !! _________________ A Little Knowledge is Dangerous and expensive! especially if your me Mending anything!! |
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Et1310
Joined: 28 Feb 2012 Posts: 185 Location: Doncaster
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 12:57 Post subject: |
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Meccano for big kids.... :? unless you get some one else to do the work for tea and bacon sandwiches.
Yes you know who you are :D |
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Et1310
Joined: 28 Feb 2012 Posts: 185 Location: Doncaster
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 13:00 Post subject: |
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Be careful with the sequence when closing the head bolts as well.
I had to redo the job as the head was "floating" |
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Langley
Joined: 30 Jul 2013 Posts: 301 Location: Bristol
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 16:45 Post subject: |
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Just followed the mitsi manual. Next job cam chain. _________________ Swb L400 blue and grey, 235/75 r15 at's, remote central locking, tow bar |
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Pagan Celt
Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Posts: 89 Location: Suffolk England
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:09 Post subject: |
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Hi Guys.
Found a replacement head and ready to put it on. Can anyone recommend a source for a good quality (OEM ?) gasket. Having read through am I right in thinking the 4 notch is the one to go for? And any idea what can I expect to have to pay?
Also, is this a good time to check/tweak/replace timing chain?
Cheers guys
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Pagan Celt
Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Posts: 89 Location: Suffolk England
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:10 Post subject: |
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Sorry, should have specified - the head in on the 4M40 _________________ 1995 LWB Super Exceed 2006 SWB Chamonix
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16296 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:47 Post subject: |
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The thickness of the gasket is greater with the four notch than a one notch. They are set to fit the amount of piston head gap required between the head and the block. It is wiser to go for the same amount of notches that were on the one you removed. If you threw it away and can't remember how many it had then the four notch is the safest to go for.
When the head gasket on my previous Deli went I fitted an aftermarket one, which was recommended by the guy who tested the head for cracks. it was a far higher quality:-
I've seen similar quality ones made by a company called EVELEX, though without the copper seals. Which I know are being sold on ebay, by a couple of different sellers, in a gasket kit:-
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MITSUBISHI-PAJERO-SHOGUN-MONTERO-CANTER-2-8-TD-TDI-4M40-T-HEAD-GASKET-SET-1994-/160761327558
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Pagan Celt
Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Posts: 89 Location: Suffolk England
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 13:51 Post subject: |
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Thanks Lewis,
Is that a metal gasket? In your opinion is that then good as a mitsy original?
Cheers
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4M40 2.8 TD PD6W 3L V6
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Lewis Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:38 Post subject: |
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You must have missed what I said at the end of the second paragraph. _________________
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Pagan Celt
Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Posts: 89 Location: Suffolk England
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 20:58 Post subject: |
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Ah yes. lol. My bad.
Sorry to labour the point but I REALLY don't want to be doing this again in a few weeks/months. The link you posted is to a gasket you recommend, right?
Is that about the best available cos I'd be prepared to pay more if there's something better?
Thanks again for your advice
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Green Grouch Lifetime member
Joined: 14 Feb 2012 Posts: 1264 Location: Dorset
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 21:24 Post subject: |
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I did a gasket change around three years ago and did not buy a gen mitsy.
I didn't see a make but purchased from Dorset auto spares . They are primarily an industrial estate supplier to all the garages in the area but let walk in off the street sorts like me purchase also.
They were also good in allowing me to order all the sizes and take them home so.i would have the correct 1 ready when I changed, and let me return the others I didn't need after.
Mine still working fine
Ps, they didn't have the three notch which I needed, but didn't know I needed ( the most common size I believe), so I stuck a four in.
I needed the vehicle back as soon as for work and advice at the time said it would be okay which it was _________________ A Little Knowledge is Dangerous and expensive! especially if your me Mending anything!! |
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skodarapid
Joined: 10 Jul 2018 Posts: 49 Location: Northamptonshire
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 0:20 Post subject: |
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Lewis wrote: |
The thickness of the gasket is greater with the four notch than a one notch. They are set to fit the amount of piston head gap required between the head and the block. It is wiser to go for the same amount of notches that were on the one you removed. If you threw it away and can't remember how many it had then the four notch is the safest to go for.
When the head gasket on my previous Deli went I fitted an aftermarket one, which was recommended by the guy who tested the head for cracks. it was a far higher quality:-
I've seen similar quality ones made by a company called EVELEX, though without the copper seals. Which I know are being sold on ebay, by a couple of different sellers, in a gasket kit:-
HTH |
I've looked at the 4M40 workshop manual to determine which gasket is required after measuring piston protrusion, but the data varies depending on Pajero / L200, which data would the Delica follow? L200 is basically 0.1mm greater piston protrusion for any given gasket thickness. |
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16296 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:28 Post subject: |
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I would go with Pajero, The L200 is later spec.
NB: I'm not a Mitsu mechanic, so would also suggest checking with your local dealers parts department. _________________
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skodarapid
Joined: 10 Jul 2018 Posts: 49 Location: Northamptonshire
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:18 Post subject: |
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Makes sense to me. I think I'm going for the thickest gasket option anyway to minimise risk because I've looked at the distance from the head's "fire-face" to the face of the valves and it is sort of 0.3mm less on the new AMC head compared to the old (unknown brand) head, which seems a tad risky to me since it's an interference engine. Is my logic sounding okay to others here? |
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skodarapid
Joined: 10 Jul 2018 Posts: 49 Location: Northamptonshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 18:10 Post subject: |
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An update to my previous post to help any future readers, the 0.3mm difference I found between the old head and AMC head is okay as both were within the 'valve sinkage from cylinder head bottom' standard values found in the 4m40 manual specifications section. |
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andyman
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 19:55 Post subject: |
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Don't L200 and Pajero have the 2.5L 4D56 engine? (Not 2.8L 4M40) _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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Green Grouch Lifetime member
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 21:09 Post subject: |
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I can't comment on the L200, but I think every pajero I've seen has 2800 intercooler on it?
Don't quote me, as I have been wrong a couple of times Andy.
I've also forgotten how many times I've been wrong _________________ A Little Knowledge is Dangerous and expensive! especially if your me Mending anything!! |
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