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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 15:06    Post subject: Modern version of a Delica Reply with quote

okay so my Shogun SWB V6 has gone Sad and I bought a car a year ago.


I have a car and a trailer and frankly I miss off-roading or even just going down green lanes.
Therefore I needed a vehicle to solution for:

Family
Camping
Off-roading
And transporting my drum kit.

Delica!!!! Perfect solution.

So why don't we have a modern version in the country?
The only thing I've seen close is the Bongo 4x4

Now I do about 10,000 miles per year as I catch the train to work and my wife takes the car so it'll travel 10ish miles per day.

My Mazda 6 diesel really doesn't like the short journeys.

The later facelift L400 ads say nearly 30mpg? Really?

The V6 is 25ish mpg I understand and petrol is 8p/l cheaper at my local petrol station.

I had the Facelift shogun 1998-2000 and it had a 24v V6. Is this the same unit? It cost me £2000 to have LPG conversion removing the old fuel tank to put the gas bottle in and a small race tank in front of the rear axle for fuel.

What are your experiences regards maintanance charges diesel vs petrol?

Any thoughts, ideas comment welcome.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 22:42    Post subject: 41 views Reply with quote

Hello community 41 views and no reply...? I have to justify my choice to the wife you know  Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 23:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

realistically, any of the 4x4's of this age/size are going to be returning the same mpg, the lpg cost isn't going to be recouped on your mileage, diesel is far easier to maintain and work on, isn't really a coarse engine but not quite as smooth as the petrol, depends on your budget but theres some very low mileage fresh imports appearing again some are only 50kish (although worth getting this verified obviously) the facelift does have the electronic fuel pump which some say is a pain but I believe thats only down to fuel shops not having the equipment to work/test them but I've not heard of that many going wrong compared to how many are in use (you always hear about the bad ones never the good). But agreed the Delica is pretty unique and theres not much that can do everything that the Delica can do, Basic easy to maintain motor...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 23:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks
I think I'm going to go for the diesel and look at the veg oil options.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:26    Post subject: Re: Modern version of a Delica Reply with quote

rcottam wrote:
So why don't we have a modern version in the country?
The only thing I've seen close is the Bongo


Shocked

Go wash your mouth out with Carbolic soap.  :D

The Bongo may look like a Deli, for the 'Wannabee's', but doesn't have the ability.

The 'modern' replacement for the L400 is the Delica D:5, of which only one has a UK number plate.




It was modded for the Dakkar Rally, as a support vehicle.



In time they will appear in the UK as Grey imports, but no doubt the prices will be very high.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 14:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

The D:5 can now be bought at auction in Japan so you could get one it will just take a while to get here.

It may also cost a small fortune to complete the necessary tests.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 14:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is a modded D5, i like this one although prefer the look of an L400

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFh3hyppbXM

don't think they are as capable as the L400 off road i guess it depends on how much off roading you want to do ...

oh and i think they have now put a diesel engine in them too.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 15:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

or if you have loads of money could buy a vw synchro...although still doesn't have the style of a Deli in my opinion
and you could buy at least 15 delis for the price of this one  Shocked


http://vimeo.com/33142111
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 15:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted this on Facebook a while ago, I'll put it here too.



This makes me want a D:5 but I'd really like to know more about their off road abilities first. Clearance is supposed to be 80mm higher than a stock Deli and they have independent suspension which should be an improvement.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 15:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i like some of the modded up versions although standard they look a bit dull...

have you seen this video?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffWdtdalN4A

would like to see a video of an L400 and a D5 doing the same terrain.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 16:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think an L400 that had a similar lift would do all of that, maybe even a bit better.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 17:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really like the look of that, impressive
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 18:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon you could get a stock one on the road in the UK for around £30K now. That's a fair bit more than an L400.

Imagine what your L400 or L300 would be like if you spent 30K on it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 18:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

check out these two   :D





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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 20:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello I did say close  Embarassed
Very sorry  Wink

It's looking like a Diesel and I'm interested in this bio diesel veg oil stuff.
TBO reading that section of the forum sent my head in a spin...  Laughing
As far as I can tell the only option for putting straight into the normal tank is bio diesel.

SVO can't be put into the tank you need a twin tank setup or a secondary tank.

If you use SVO you need to thin it. Some say with diesel others say petrol????

I had a quick look in my local area Sheffield and bio diesel is sold for £1.28/l

I had a quick look on fleabay for a home kit and it looks like it would cost ££££ to setup.

Has anyone put a different Diesel engine in? 3.0l Isuzu? V6 diesel sounds nice.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 20:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm.

Lot of good things about the D:5 but there's no option for a diesel and they don't do a long wheelbase version.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 21:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

rcottam wrote:
Hello I did say close  Embarassed
Very sorry  Wink

It's looking like a Diesel and I'm interested in this bio diesel veg oil stuff.
TBO reading that section of the forum sent my head in a spin...  Laughing
As far as I can tell the only option for putting straight into the normal tank is bio diesel.

SVO can't be put into the tank you need a twin tank setup or a secondary tank.

If you use SVO you need to thin it. Some say with diesel others say petrol????

I had a quick look in my local area Sheffield and bio diesel is sold for £1.28/l

I had a quick look on fleabay for a home kit and it looks like it would cost ££££ to setup.

Has anyone put a different Diesel engine in? 3.0l Isuzu? V6 diesel sounds nice.



okay as far as i understand it,for the L400 pre facelift model 2.8 diesel you can put the veg oil straight into the tank and mix with diesel and it runs just fine, the percentage of diesel to veg oil changes depending on winter or summer, problems can occur with the fuel filter blocking at first and also the fuel pump oil seal may need changing, but they do anyway! apart form that they seem to run just fine...

also Lee of tigweld was working on system using the existing tank and a pre heater , the idea is the tank is divided one part for diesel one part for veg oil, start and finish the journey on diesel but do the main part of the journey running on veg oil and all done from a flick of a switch inside the cab.  excellent idea  :D

a few people have been running on veg oil for a while and there are lots of info and threads on here about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 21:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derek wrote:
Hmmmm.

Lot of good things about the D:5 but there's no option for a diesel and they don't do a long wheelbase version.


think they do have a diesel option now   Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 21:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

The L400 will run just fine on 100% SVO but SVO starts to gel when the weather cools down so you either need to heat it up before it gets to the filter or mix it with diesel.

It will also run on WVO but you need to filter that a fair bit, the equipment to do that isn't too expensive, it's just getting a bit tricky to find sources for the WVO.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 16:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

As our Delicas get older and less reliable the D 5 is the only option.  But only if they get imported into the uk.   :?
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