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andybusaking



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:05    Post subject: Dean Rosenthal Delica Reply with quote

Thanks sorry I did not make things clear ,payed for the Delica via PayPal money transfer which I contacted them and they cannot help ,I seen the Delica on eBay but did not buy in through eBay as I payed extra to have a lot of modifications done to the Delica by Dean ,winch ,snorkel,mark 2 front end,and the list goes on ,I actually sent £5600 to him on the 27th December 2014 and when he said he could not complete the build he sent me £1600 refund at which time I thought he was genuine but the rest of the money has never arrived as he promised 8 weeks ago ,at one point he agreed to clear his debt by delivering the Delica and I am still waiting so that's the full story ,thanks for the advise I will contact the police in the morning via phone from were I work I have lots of emails and evidence even a detailed recipe cheers
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is funny (probably not for andybusaking).

Here is Australia, whenever we advertise a car for sale, we always get an offer from someone working on the oil rigs to buy the car, sight un-seen. They even offer to pay the asking price. They can't do a bank transfer, but offer to pay by Pay-Pal, and have an agent collect the car to ship to them (on an oil rig???).

Sometimes they even ask us to pay the agent and then they will reimburse us through Pay Pal (before the agent has collected the car).

This is a well known scam. Just after the agent picks up the car, Pay Pal inform us that the payment has been rescinded, or our Pay Pal account has been hacked and the payment details are fake, etc.....

This story is from the other perspective!

Look forward to hearing how it all pans out.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:34    Post subject: Dean Rosenthal Reply with quote

Update to all who supplied the very good advice ,I have now handed all the information I have on Mr Dean Roenthal to the action fraud team and they now will take the actions needed to sort my problem out ,thanks to all
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 13:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought andy, have you paid to tax,mot and insure it?  If not it sounds like someone has done so it can be used
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re - jgupte's post, on 2 different occasions when I tried to sell my R19 16V cabbie on A/trader, I had 3 different (I think) scammers tried the overseas buyer trick. I managed to get an answer on one phone number supplied, but as soon as I told the person what I was calling about, the line went dead. One, who made the mistake of giving a North London home address (neither road nor postcode existed), I led on to the point where he/she sent me a cheque. I then e-mailed back, telling him/her, truthfully, that I had handed his cheque to my bank's fraud department, and why. I never received a reply! A cheque will show up as credited to your account, you allow the vehicle to go, or as with these fraudsters, send on the balance of the cheque by non-returnable transfer, supposedly to their shipping agent, then discover that the previously credited amount has disappeared from your account, as they have cancelled the cheque. Don't get caught.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 16:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news andybusaking - but he's been made bankrupt - see the following link:-

Just punch in to your search engine 'Dean Rosenthal, Wigan', and it will show the gazette bankrupty page in London.
I'm gutted too as he owed me £4000 as well - (see my previous posts)

I eventually had to get the bailiffs onto him when he point blank refused to answer any correspondence and ignored County Court orders and judgments. He went on a months foreign holiday in January - (no doubt using our money - the *beep*!!). He was given the opportunity to repay @£850 per month and never paid a penny, then I had to get the bailiffs onto him. When they went to see him he was on yet another holiday (2 weeks ago). Just got intel about this bankruptcy today, so sorry my friend, looks like we're both going to be out of pocket. It really leaves a bad taste in ones mouth.
I'll put the whole story up when I've got a bit more time.

I believe we may get something , but it will be a few months down the line....

Sorry if this has put a dampener on things mate, if I were you I'd go onto Money Claim online and file a case against him, or you'll get nothing as a creditor when they review his bankruptcy outgoings  Sad

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 20:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pity he's not going to spend some time at Her Majesty's Pleasure!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 21:25    Post subject: Update to recent stuff Reply with quote

Look at nwm6imports on eBay. Seems familiar? Shocked
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Byway



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

the photos do look to be his place   Sad

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andyman



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wouldn't be the first time a banned trader had carried on as the brains, with a front-man's name on the letter-heads.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 15:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought i would add to this link even though it is gettng on a bit; bought my LWB Delica from NWM6Imports on ebay 3 months ago not having seen this thread.  Within a few weeks the 4wd started playing up big time, in as much as i Can't drive with it; contacted Dean who said that i should arrange to bring it back for him to see - that was nearly two months ago and since then he will not respond to texts, phone calls or emails.  I live at the other side of the country so it is very difficult to get over and just knock on the door so i am stuffed with getting anything done on the "three month warranty"!.  Luckily for me, the engine is good, transmission okay and bodywork perfect inside and out.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update on my ongoing fight to get my money back from Dean ,I have now returned from my work overseas (paid off due to oil prices) so my £ 4000 would come in handy now ,the fraud action squad are taking sometime to get any info back to me so I don't know if I should possible go and see a solicitor soon to move things on in ,I see he is on the eBay trading still so all be warned he cannot be trusted ,
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to get a full refund after refusing to accept the Deli he delivered. Mind you it took many 'phone calls and became a real stand-off before he agreed the refund, then I wouldn't release the Deli to his collection crew until the refund money was back in my bank.

Keep pushing and good luck.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 15:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

just read some of this thread....i have just recently bought a window for my Deli from "nwm6imports" on ebay. Spoke to "dean". Paid £56 via paypal.
After telling me it would take a week to arrive ...still no window. Had to keep texting him to ask when its due to arrive. Eventually after 3 weeks its arrived.
It looks okay, i'm about to go out and fit it. ...fingers crossed.
I also needing a radiator ....but i'm not using him again.
i'm relieved it was only a window i ordered.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 22:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a lucky escape!
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andybusaking



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:52    Post subject: Dean Rosenthal Reply with quote

Jappartsonly1 is the new eBay name of the thief Dean Rosenthal he still owes me over £4000 don't deal with this man stay well clear I have been fighting for a long time legally to get a refund and still no luck but one day ,how the man sleeps at night is unbalivable
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take it that the powers-that-be know of his new persona(s). Has he not been convicted of anything that would ban him from trading? Or does he hide behind legal accomplices ?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 22:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

One for the Dean files,

Bankruptcy proceedings

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2330809

I must be one of the lucky ones, I got a Delica from Dean and have put over 30,000km on it in two years with not much more than routine servicing, new gaitors and a few bushes.  The only biggie was a new steering rack and I got that at a good price ftom Phils Pajero's who I have found to be excellent for a few other parts.

His claim that it had been meticulosuly restored was total fabrication though....

Quick spray of underseal and a damn good polish me thinks.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 0:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like he made the local news as well

http://www.wigantoday.net/news/local/wigan-ebay-trader-guilty-of-selling-dangerous-cars-1-7553556#axzz3r2RjJW9U

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 21:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Result! Lets hope they throw the book at him.
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