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jfarsang

Question for you guys

Has there been any issues with Dealers & Traders pushing sales in the tech/general areas or are they generally shut down by moderators in a short order?

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Diver · Joined: 28 Apr 2011 Posts: 1054 Location: Welney

The odd glimpses i've seen are dealt with by the mods super quick. Is it a problem over on your side?

Lewis · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 21:21 Post subject:

We have a system here that stops new members from posting links and images until they have a reasonable amount of proper posts and a week or two of membership.

All sales are done via the website 'Classifieds section:- http://www.click2add.co.uk/classifieds/?view=ads&catid=5&cityid=-1

Any sales posts that are posted anywhere else on the website are deleted on sight after a member has reported them.

You can read the club sales posts rules here:- http://www.MDOCUK.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3879

Brand new members who use the classifieds section are usually permitted, but trade sales are instantly deleted.

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jfarsang · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 23:28 Post subject:

It's become a large problem and voiced by many members. Just wondering if you guys on this side of the pond have experienced it before.

All of the other forums I'm a member of, the administrators/moderators always without question put members ahead of dealer and site sponsor/advertisers.

In this case, there is one Dealer that pretty much took over the forum and pushed out all the other dealers. It's come to a point where any random member says anything that this dealer does not like, then the dealer begins to belittles that member.

It's a real shame.

Happens frequently every month or so with this specific dealer. Goes quite and them comes back with a vengeance towards anyone who does not follow their own personal rules.

Not sure of what to do. We (members) have attempted to squash this behaviour but it backfired.

Other forum admin/mods have told me that it simply would not get to that point (thread quotes below).

Cheers guys

Here is an example for yesterday: I omitted the dealer's name and link to the thread to be polite.

As that thread may get deleted (this dealer appears to have his 'explosions' removed and starts fresh all over again often so no new members realize what happened), here is an exert from that dealer.

The site rule is clear regarding dealers.

unclebazwold · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 23:47 Post subject:

Oh my gawd throw him off not a nice trader it seems to me but i bet some members love him we have had similar things with traders selling stuff and talking rollox but they are thrown off double quick by the mods before it gets to the stage you are at but it seems there is the problem of him paying for advertising so i don't know how far you would get.
We still have guys who sell their stuff but they toe the line and don't push it its there if you want it same as guys who do seals etc for a living its word of mouth and they are there giving out advice freely with anything they can.
Bazza
ps Apart from a drunken indian everyone was nice when i went on me hols to BC :D
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Diver · Joined: 28 Apr 2011 Posts: 1054 Location: Welney

Wow, that's quite a thread (sounds like a leaky waterpump to me too Laughing

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I don't think we even have any dealer/trader sponsors on this site? I've certainly never seen a post from any.....

jfarsang · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 23:55 Post subject:

it's come to 'this' point almost every few weeks for the past year. Members have left because of this already.

Spoke with admins on other forums I frequent (non-Delica) and they are shocked that this type of language and harsh communication is being exchanged between a dealer/vendor and a regular-joe member.

Diver · Joined: 28 Apr 2011 Posts: 1054 Location: Welney

What's the official position of your Admin/Mods on the issue? Won't be much of a forum if all the normal members leave (to make a break-away forum without such 'sponsors'?)

jfarsang · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 0:24 Post subject:

no official position Question

Diver · Joined: 28 Apr 2011 Posts: 1054 Location: Welney

Sounds like they need to get one. So no response to complaints to Admin/Mods/Domain owner?

jfarsang · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:07 Post subject:

just that they would speak with the dealer. it appears that didn't phase the dealer.

Because there hasn't been any group chats or resolutions, we were advised by other forum admin/mods to look for a solution outside of the box without mentioning names/forum,etc..

This way a general discussion can be had and maybe a good solution would present itself. That's what we're hoping for.

Diver · Joined: 28 Apr 2011 Posts: 1054 Location: Welney

Seems to me it has to come down to Admin. No need for an outside the box resolution surely? If someone on a forum is upsetting everyone, they get a warning followed by a ban if the warning is ignored. I thought that's how they all worked? Bit more complicated if it's someone paying money to be there I guess, but that shouldn't give them a free hand to the detriment of everyone else. If a forum becomes unusable and members don't take part anymore, not much incentive to sponsor after all.
Was a thread about it all started over there? Twisted Evil

jfarsang · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:23 Post subject:

I purposely did not link a site/forum and omitted the names just to have a general discussion. I see no good or benefit if I were to post the dealer member or their aggressiveness.

We were wondering if you guys experienced this sort of things before from a paying dealer/member(site sponsor) as they appear to be under different rules than normal non-paying members.

This issue has been ongoing for over a year on an almost weekly basis. The frustration is voiced through many members so it's not just one person is bothered off with a bad experience with that specific dealer.

Diver · Joined: 28 Apr 2011 Posts: 1054 Location: Welney

Yeah, just been over having a read. Mental. Like I said, i've never seen a post from a dealer/supplier sponsor anywhere on here so something is very different with the way this one is run. Perhaps one of the mods on here might explain if that's the case?

jfarsang · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:07 Post subject:

Thanks for the feedback guys. Cheers

Lewis · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:35 Post subject:

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Lewis · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 21:03 Post subject:

Of course Mods also have a problem with sorting out errors made by members who post messages incorrectly that make it look as though a different person has said something instead of the person who actually wrote it.

The above post by Deker is a prime example of that problem. Rolling Eyes

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jfarsang · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:25 Post subject:

Thanks guys. Pretty much reinforced the consensus on other forums as well.

People argue and some exchanges get heated but when a dealer or vendor does it on a consistent basis without any regard for other members, it becomes quite the thorn.

Cheers