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GDog Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:55 Post subject: BF Goodrich's on standard 15" Deli Wheel |
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My Falken LandAir A/T's are in need of replacment soon so was wondering if what the maximum size BF Goodrich A/T's I could fit on a standard 15" Deli wheel? I'm lookiing for something that looks wide on the rims (good n meaty!).
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chrisfoster1971 Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 13:44 Post subject: |
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That depends if you want to make any other mods eg 31/10.5r15 fit but rub without a little nursing with a hammer BFG AT's cost £86 each for this size online .. I was looking only last night. Obviously this is plus fitting. _________________ 100% BIO DIESEL ! Well not quite at the moment
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Mystery Machine
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 15:15 Post subject: |
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I would not recommend fitting anything bigger than a 30/9.5/15 on a standard rim (or 235/75/15)
I know some people who have fitted 31's on the standard rims, but the amount of sidewall flex/bulge you get is actually unsafe and if you were to have an accident you may well find that the insurance won't pay out because you were running an unsafe size on the rim. Why take the risk?
Stick to the safe option of the two sizes listed above and you won't go far wrong.
(alternatively, find some Pajero 7" rims and go for the 31's.... :D ) _________________ '93 L300 Mystery Machine (Now in the hands of a new owner)
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 18:35 Post subject: |
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Mystery Machine wrote: |
I would not recommend fitting anything bigger than a 30/9.5/15 on a standard rim (or 235/75/15)
I know some people who have fitted 31's on the standard rims, but the amount of sidewall flex/bulge you get is actually unsafe and if you were to have an accident you may well find that the insurance won't pay out because you were running an unsafe size on the rim. Why take the risk?
Stick to the safe option of the two sizes listed above and you won't go far wrong. |
That is kinda worrying Bruce I've had them on since I got the beast. Must admit I only wanted to change them as the tyres rub the front arches even without the mud flaps. But that has worried me somewhat especially having the two little ones, wife, two dogs and potentially 1/5 ton Caravan on the back a few times this year.
Question is would those Colways be okay as they are Retreads aren't they ? Bruce could you let me know if you have received my cheque please... not had chance to check my account so don't know. Thanks. I really need to speak with you anyway about this lift so will give you a call later.. _________________ 100% BIO DIESEL ! Well not quite at the moment
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Mystery Machine
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 19:14 Post subject: |
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Hi Chris,
Got the cheque (thanks ) and hoping to get the parts shipped up to you next weekend or the weekend after (whichever Eddie can do?)
Give me a call tomorrow - I'm off out tonight for a few beers, a curry and a few more (aka MANY more) beers!!
Cheers for now,
Bruce. _________________ '93 L300 Mystery Machine (Now in the hands of a new owner)
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GDog Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 19:15 Post subject: |
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Cheers Mystery M,
30x9's are fitted at the mo. So then... I'm looking at BF Goodrich 235x75x15's as recommended. Are 255's 'taller'? What is the difference?
Thanks
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Mystery Machine
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 19:17 Post subject: |
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Go for the 30's again if you can.
235's are bigger than standard, but not as big as the 30's (and 255's are a different kettle of fish altogether)
Given the choice I'd go for 30" tyres over 235's......and BFG's are a fantastic make of tyre.
Hope that makes sense?
Right - go to go....need to drink and eat and be merry! _________________ '93 L300 Mystery Machine (Now in the hands of a new owner)
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 20:09 Post subject: |
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I only seem to see tyres advertised in the format 235x75x15 rather than 30x9 etc. Why the two different measurements and can you recommend a supplier of 30x9 BFG AT's? |
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 20:25 Post subject: |
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I've been looking since seeing Bruces earlier post and the best I can find is £96 so far. But this is supply only not fitting as well. _________________ 100% BIO DIESEL ! Well not quite at the moment
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 20:29 Post subject: |
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Yep that is the place I was looking at...
I'll post if I find anyone else. _________________ 100% BIO DIESEL ! Well not quite at the moment
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MattPayne
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 21:09 Post subject: |
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to get a general feel for tyre sizes, this is a useful site...
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
it will only do metric (235x75x15) type calculations, but will show differences in height, width, etc and speedo differences between tyres _________________ Click HERE to see my Deli!
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 22:29 Post subject: |
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Here is a list showing the differences in the tyres discussed... concern is the difference in speedo / odometer readings with the tyres being suggested
225/80r15 is the standard size in addition to the 235/75r15 I think anything over 3% is not advisable according to the website. _________________ 100% BIO DIESEL ! Well not quite at the moment
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 0:29 Post subject: |
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chrisfoster1971 wrote: |
Here is a list showing the differences in the tyres discussed... concern is the difference in speedo / odometer readings with the tyres being suggested
225/80r15 is the standard size in addition to the 235/75r15 I think anything over 3% is not advisable according to the website. |
Chris,
When doing these comparisons enter 225/80R15 as the stock tyre, as it is the OEM size fitted at the factory which the Dash instruments are calibrated for. That is then what everything else has to be compared to. Any other size will give the wrong info for odometer / and diameter differences.
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:46 Post subject: |
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Lewis I thought both the 225 and 235 were stock sizes... Once again Lewis you have shown me the light. Thanks _________________ 100% BIO DIESEL ! Well not quite at the moment
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:06 Post subject: |
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Although the physical tyre dimensions are close, the 235 is the normal equivalent used in the UK, it still has an effect on the odometer reading. That can be seen on this chart I made earlier for those wanting to keep as close as possible to the OEM 15" outer diameter wheel size, with Warrior L200 16" rims, to save having to recalibrate the odometer.
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Donny Deli
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Looking at this post as i am thinking of taking off the 31 10.50 r15 as they are rubbing when cornering. But i like the stance of the truck with them on. I was thinking of fitting 255.70.r15 or even 255.75.r15 or the other one is I see Pajero wheel on flee bay that have the 265 tyres fitted would these fit . Is there any difference between a new shape or old shape Pajero for the wheels PCD? Lewis ???HELP _________________
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:21 Post subject: |
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I run 31" tyres (31/10.5/15) on standard Pajero rims,
slight re-work of some of the front arch
no problems and agreed it gives a good stance _________________ Regards
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:26 Post subject: |
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Donny Deli wrote: |
Is there any difference between a new shape or old shape Pajero for the wheels PCD? Lewis ???HELP |
I don't have a lot of knowledge on the different Paj wheels, Redneck & Mystery Machine would be more use than I on that score.
I do have a set of four Paj teardrop pattern wheels that I bought and cleaned up to put on mine. I then decided not to as I would have needed to slightly adapt the centres to allow the hubcap ring prongs to fit through and also buy some domed nuts for them, as my collared ones didn't fit. The wheels fitted perfectly as long as I didn't put the hubcap retaining rings on.
I guess I will have to get them out and decide what to do with them. :? _________________
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