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Lewis · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 19:58 Post subject:

If you mean the big hexagonal one that is on all of them, that is partly a locating nut so you put the correct one on the correct side of the vehicle. The nut goes facing towards the front. The nut then adjusts against a bump stop on the wheel casting to set the maximum angle the wheel will turn in to, so that the tyres don't rub on the chassis or anti-roll bar. Wink

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ricke · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 20:31 Post subject:

The part number that you have there Lewis for the Milners unit is the Front right lower ball joint for a Mitsubishi Pajero Mk 2

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Lewis · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 21:00 Post subject:

markie · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 22:28 Post subject:

Hi lewis I replaced mine 2 weeks ago and they were the same as your original.hope this helps
L400 1995 2.8 td exceed
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mythatsabigun · Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:32 Post subject:

Old chestnuts but..... Crying or Very sad

here we are a mere 2 and a bit months and 1827 miles down the road from me fitting mine and they are totally trashed.
Taken loads of pics, call in with Milners, awaiting response...might post a couple of pics if I can remember / work out how (see fuel filter thread efforts Embarassed

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Milners on about replacement rubbers - me insisting on full refund and purchasing Mitsi ones.....we'll see Crying or Very sad

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mythatsabigun · Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 20:55 Post subject:

Well, that was a fruitful bank holiday Sunday spent swapping all 4 ball joints. Milners have agreed to a full refund - I won't charge them for my time - lucky it wasn't a garage doing it, eh Wink

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Just one point for anyone doing this job, nice and easy but stay focused.....I was distracted by someone who stopped for a chat just as I was reconnecting everything. I'd connected the wishbone back to the chassis (?) with the bolts that are used to set the tracking, but hadn't actually tightened them up and set the tracking. During the first test drive there were several quite loud clunks that left me limping home quite slowly and apprehensively for the last few hundred yards. I quickly realised what it was, tightened and set them properly and went for a second test drive that was as sweet and smooth as headbang

- it actually seems to feel more solid and smooth than the milners balljoints were. I know the rubber had broke down but I'd have thought the balljoint was still okay...I mean it had been less than 2000 miles between installation and removal.

Moral of the story - don't skimp where it matters Embarassed

So, that should be it - hopefully won't have to do anymore work on it for a while ... then it's onto a Mitsubishi colt with 1100 miles on the clock and 2.5 years worth of full service and warranty - yay!! - so I can concentrate on sorting the house out....a bit more....

It's been fun guys - thanks for all the help!! - you are all brilliant...and there are some real superstars out there - you know who you are hello2

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Lewis · Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:58 Post subject:

strangerover · Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:10 Post subject:

I strongly agree with what Lewis has just said...

Can not stress enough how adjustable our front set up is...

the wish bone joints not only alter camber but castor too !

money well spent having it set up, but you need to find a proper 4 wheel alignment centre who knows what they are doing !

try to go to one recomended by some one you know !
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mythatsabigun · Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 13:44 Post subject:

...if I was keeping it I'd consider it...I did mark them before disconnecting and got them back at exactly the same place, so they won't be too far out from before I got it done....suspect it's probably never been set-up properly in its life, so it would probably benefit from attention.
Thanks again guys,

Dave

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jo0lz · Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 908 Location: Wirral

Hmmm
Interesting thread

I'm currently looking to get one offside lower ball joint for our '400
As I need to get it fixed and back to my MOT man next week before he goes off on Hols for a fortnight

Mitsu dealers have quoted me £78-60+VAT = £94-32
Local Gallaghers on Wirral say 3 weeks to get hold of one, ordered from Japan?!?
While best Dealer I know, Norjac in Carnforth, say there are 6 in the UK and they could get one for Tuesday [but they are a 150 mile round trip away]

Local Motorfactors who I always use are unsure of the one I need, as they say their computer lists two possible types
If we take a punt and order one or other they can be with them for Tuesday

There is an eBay seller called "AutoChassismate"
selling them in pairs for £37 and free postage with 4-6 working days delivery
see eBay item No 220534094249
Messaged him about faster delivery options

Milner's current price is just £17-50 with carriage [here by Tuesday] £28-50

So just cos I'm under time pressure I've gone the Milner route Rolling Eyes

mrwilks · Joined: 06 Oct 2011 Posts: 15 Location: rotherham

Hi lewis I've heard that the original (mitsi) ball joints don't come with grease nipples! I replaced both lower and upper joints on our lasses Deli uppers can be bought from any where but lowers only from import dealers,but they are also copys. original lower joints are about £60 each as opposed to £30 for copies.So i greased them up and put in a grub screw, As I've found its easier to take off the entire shoe when changing the lower joint which also gives you chance to inspect wheel bearings and shocker.

BrianB72 · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 19:24 Post subject:

I had a similar dilema when my L400 needed tops and bottoms. I ordered mine from milners and got the ones with grease nipples, after reading on here about nippless and nipples I ordered some from the local blue print supplier and those where the same. still not being 100% I bought some off the auction site because the seller assured me that these didn't have nipples. when they turned up they had nipples!!!
So I pumped them full of grease and slung them on and returned the others!!
Now I'm as confused as everyone else!!
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mrwilks · Joined: 06 Oct 2011 Posts: 15 Location: rotherham

Hi bri don't be confused mate! In my experience even the inport dealers don't fully know what there supplying. The chaps on here tend to drill holes in wish bones to accept the lower joint grease nipples,which is a FANTASTIC solution BUT IT SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE DONE. The Delica has been in this country for a long time now and the pattern parts should be pukka.And while I'm on my soap box(FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS) outers can be bought from anywhere but inners can only be bought from import dealers. SO if the front bearings are getting tired remember tapered needle roller bearings have a 5lb take up on them that will give you about another 6 months to save the 60 quid it will cost you for the two inners. I'm GOING TO PASS OUT NOW!!!!!

george_goring0913 · Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 29 Location: Dartford

Hi, after noticing i need to replace both front lower bull joints on my L400 and reading about the grease nipple problem i decided to buy mine from "milner off road", which still had grease nipples that failed on the lower arm but were of a high standard.
After a bit more research i decided to pump the joints full of grease, replace the grease nipple with a grub screw and weld it in place, gave it a clean and coat of paint and Job done, no more problems with fitting and Can't be any worse than the factory fitted items with no gease nipple.
If you can weld them in just loc-tight the grub screws in place.
Hope this helps someone out there.
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Lewis · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 0:01 Post subject:

Having finally got an answer from Mitsubishi, via my local desler I can say that the OEM Deli Balljoints are 'sealed for life' whilst those Pajero balljonts, require topping up during a service or more often, depending on usage. Sad

The Pajero ones are not designed for the Delica, which have a greater weight/stress level.
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skodarapid · Joined: 10 Jul 2018 Posts: 49 Location: Northamptonshire

Resurrecting another old thread... I'm currently installing a blueprint front right lower joint. It has no nipple so can I assume there is enough grease in there for life? If not, how do you even grease one of these?
For reference it's blueprint ADC48610. Also annoyingly, it came without the bumpstop bolt, and the four mounting bolts have no plain shank.

Lewis · Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:39 Post subject:

BLUEPRINT: Greased for life, no additional greasing is required. Wink

Use the bolts off the one you are replacing.
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skodarapid · Joined: 10 Jul 2018 Posts: 49 Location: Northamptonshire

Thanks for your reply Lewis. The boot felt rather empty but anyway it's on now so I don't think I'm going to do anything about it.

I have reused the four mounting bolts which look in reasonable condition and feature plain shanks for, I think, a better fit to the lower arm. What I don't have is the steering bump stop bolt because I rounded the head off the old one. Seems it has no invidual part number.

For future reference, what is the correct dissassembly method? I was suprised at how many other parts had to come off before I could get the old ball joint out and the new in, found by trial and error. And during the process I bent the thin flange end of the driveshaft which prevented it slotting fully back into the hub. I carefully bent the flange back into shape and it's okay. Maybe I'm missing something but the Peter Russek manual and the workshop manual pdf's found on here don't state anything of that nature (step by step sort of thing). Am I starting to appreciate Haynes now?

andyman · Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 5602 Location: Penrith

I have fitted a few ball joints in the last couple of years; some have felt a bit empty, and sure enough, when I have peeled back the boot, there has been a small splodge of grease in the boot which would take a while to work its way into the joint. No wonder they wear out so quickly!
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rekab6969 · Joined: 13 May 2019 Posts: 48 Location: Kelsale, Suffolk

Just doing top and bottom ball joints, no nipples on the old ones coming off and new ones from Milners also don't have any nipples..

Old ones were very loose, new ones can hardly move by hand so worth doing I feel..

db.