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ron spice · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 37 Location: garden of england

just changed near side wishbone on mine and guess what, no grease nipple on the ball joint. I seem to remember seeing a post on here around August last year when i joined the club concerning ball joints from milners, having grease nipples on and not fitting into the wishbone, milners where contacted and there reply was, we have sold over 400 units with no problems, so up until August last year for the year they sold 400 units and from the start of this year to February they've sold another 400 units already? or they've sold none between August last year and February this year, well one to Lewis that is!

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Lewis · Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 23:27 Post subject: Re: joints

ron spice · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 37 Location: garden of england

okay i surrender must admit i didn't spot it, just took it to be a fresh post, just looks to me that milners are flogging universal ball joints, one joint fits all, send them a bill for all the unnecessary work you've had to do to make it fit, but hey thats the trouble with aftermarket parts, some good some bad and others just indifferent Rolling Eyes

Lewis · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 15:02 Post subject:

strangerover · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 17:28 Post subject:

that is poor,

good old milners strike again
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mythatsabigun · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 19:37 Post subject:

'...don't look ethel...!!'

'eeek' Shocked

'too late, she looked!!'

Crying or Very sad

Hells bells, anyone else used these ?? - please (obviously) keep us posted on progress with Milners

Cheers,

Dave.
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big_mike · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:26 Post subject:

Lewis · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:22 Post subject:

I understand what you mean; but if it was the grease then I would have expected it to corroded from the inside out.
It appears here to be breaking down on the external surface with the splits going from the outside inwards. :?

The same grease was used for years on my campervan rubber components and had no degradable effect on those!

I assume the same component has been used on the YD POCUK members motors so it would be interesting to know if any of them have had the same problem.
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big_mike · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 13:10 Post subject:

Did you replace a number of them at the same time? are they all the same? If they have largely gone on the outside then you are certainly right it isn't the grease.

IIRC WD40 (and other light oils, amongst other things) attacks certain types of rubbers quiet aggresively. or maybe they have been made with the wrong grade of rubber and that has broken down prematurely (we have found that some stuff we have made in China that if they run out of one raw material they will often substitute another even if it isn't what was specified originally, not good! Rolling Eyes

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All rather academic really and not very helpful, just looked very similar to some of the rubber seal failures we have had with certain types of sterilization on some of our products so thought it might be worth mentioning.

Cheers,

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Lewis · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 14:29 Post subject:

Well I sent an E-mail to Milners on Saturday, at 14:20, and have not yet had a reply.

Perhaps it got lost in the ethernet? I'm sending another one now! :?
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Lewis · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 0:47 Post subject:

Lewis · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 0:49 Post subject:

Lewis · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 18:38 Post subject:

Well nobody called me back! But I just received an E-mail from Mathew saying they have sent me a replacement, which I should get on Thursday and don't need to send the faulty one back.

Which sort of ends the refund for an OEM one idea! Sad

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simmossotto · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 21:17 Post subject:

Deary deary me.....Do they (Milners) honestly think you'd want to replace the prematurely worn one with exactly the same one again. They really should have refunded your dough. angry5

Incidently, mine (ball joints) don't have the grease nipple either, and my bushes are worn also (suprise suprise). Think I'll be leaving it to Mitsi to do at MOT time which is in a few weeks time. Rolling Eyes

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ron spice · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 37 Location: garden of england

the picture of your failed ball joint looks like the rubber used has gone brittle and cracked due to the cold, so it may be a case of low quality rubber used.

Lewis · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 15:50 Post subject:

ricke · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 20:33 Post subject:

After checking the bushes on mine i decided to use Lewis's spot on instructions to sort them out.

I had a a spare set of wishbones which like the units currently on the Mitsi are a little on the rough side so i decided to acid strip them and paint them up before fitting the new bushes.....
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb310/ricke_60/Image003-2.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb310/ricke_60/Image004-1.jpg

One thing that was interesting was the water ingress patterns showing how the water had got under what looked like perfect and undamaged powder coating.....

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb310/ricke_60/Image007-1.jpg

And some of the rusty bits

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb310/ricke_60/Image005-2.jpg

The properly buggered bush

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb310/ricke_60/Image008-1.jpg

Next thing is a good wire brush before dipping in silver hamerite and refitting......

Good to know about the Milners ball joints, just a blow that someone had to find out this way, so it is definitly Mitsi ones for me which i was going to use anyway as drilling any holes in the wishbones was not going t happen......

Ricke
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Lewis · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 18:54 Post subject:

Just to round off the result of the faulty LBJ's from Milners.

Mathew has concluded that they seem to have a faulty batch and agreed to refund the cost of them, plus the cost of sending both items back to him. He also offered to get me a pair of Mitsubishi OEM ones, at the price shown above with a 5% discount and free delivery for goodwill.

I have had some OEM ones supplied, though not by Milners, and those are now sitting waiting for some decent weather to kick in so I can get them done, currently there seems to be a 50mph wind rattling my roof and the temp has gone down to 8°Celcius! :?
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mythatsabigun · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:16 Post subject:

So....I've got all this to look forward to??!!

Any chance of mentioning to Matthew in your communications that there will be a queue of club members who have at least swapped their LBJ's between when you bought your originals and the present ones, waiting for a similar deal.....and also that we are extremely pee'd off that we are going to have to spend at least double the amount of our precious time replacing them.....and that we've had to drill bloody holes in our wishbones to accommodate substandard kit!!!! angryfire

ooops, going off on a bit of a one there!!!

Good work there Lewis - you are my hero....just wish you'd posted the info the day before you did - As ever in my life, perfect timing Laughing

Cheers,

Dave.
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strangerover · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 16:57 Post subject:

Very interesting...

I can see why the Mitsi part would last longer as the rubber is far better design / shape...

whats the screw in the side of the mitsi one for ?
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