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GAVINTWOPIES · Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 256 Location: TYNE & WEAR

I have been out to the mitsy dealer today and bought a new side door hinge that i can use to make an extension door hinge out of as i was told that i can get one from japan but there £400 by the time you put on the import tax etc Shocked

So instead I've been comparing it with some pictures i have on my computer so i can size up what size material i will need to make the other section of the hinge to make it swing wider however now I'm looking into it what I'm a bit confused over is where on the pictures i have the original hinge point pin is replaced with a m8 bolt now is this bolt tightened down onto the new section of the hinge so much that this prevent this point from physically moving or does the hinge have 2 hinge points? which seems a bit daft as this would mean the hinge would work fine when being opened but would fold in on its self when the door was being closed hence the door would come into contact with the side of the vehicle and no doubt cause quite a lot of damage to the paintwork and any fibreglass arches fitted (which i will have soon).

If i remember i think there is a few people on here that have this sort of thing on their L300 or L400 i know that the L300's hinge is different to the L400's hinge and so weren't a direct swap or interchangeable but i assume that the principal would be the same between the 2 hinges , so I'm hoping that someone will be able to shed some light on whether I'm thinking along the right lines???

Cheers

Gavin

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Dinkum_Dude · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 20:25 Post subject:

Hi Gavin

Yes it does pivot where the M8 bolt is, I'm not sure if it has a spring or anything in there though but it def hinges in two places. Mine does rub slightly on the wheelarch sometimes but the only damage so far is a little paint rubbed off.

My arches are much wider than the ones in your pics and I don't think that my door has been munched and mangled as much as in your pics if any at all.

My hinge arm looks the same as the one in the pics though.

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Dinkum_Dude · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 20:26 Post subject:

Want me to go and have a look Question

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GAVINTWOPIES · Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 256 Location: TYNE & WEAR

Now we are starting to get somewhere here, so what do you think would happen if you were to tighten the m8 bolt up and hold the joint in a fixed position ?? would it come so far round to shut then jam up or what?? coz looking at it i think the door would swing round into the shut position abit quick and thats about it???

just the extra hole in the cars original part of the hingle could be used to put a m6 bolt through to keep it fixed in 1 position if it will work like that?

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billy bob · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 20:51 Post subject:

if you look at the second picci you can see that the "hinge" on the body side has a stop bar so it Can't fold untill it is within the curved section when nearly closed, hope you understand what i mean
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Dinkum_Dude · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 21:50 Post subject:

Been and had a look and then read billy bobs post, so going back out to check on something. I hope you guys don't mind me going out there in the freezing cold....BBBBRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Exclamation

Back in a tick.
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Dinkum_Dude · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 22:21 Post subject:

okay I'm back in the warm again.

Just opened and closed the door about 20 times gently (ie. not slamming) and the point of the M8 bolt didn't even try to pivot, yet when it does..... is when it rubs on the arch Exclamation

So shouldn't be a prob if it was tightened up, in fact I'll tighten mine up to see how it goes tomorrow.

I've taken a load more pics so will get onto uploading a few now. Also took a tape measure too, so you should be able to work out some sort of scale from your pics.
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Dinkum_Dude · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 23:09 Post subject:

okay here's the pics:

Three pics of it coming around the bend

in the door

This bit shows a wedge on the end of the extension

Some rough sizes

The bottom runner

I measured the extension where I could with a vernier gauge and the bulk of the extension is 19mm x 46.6mm this is reduced to 38mm for most of the length of the part that folds into the door. The length is around 150mm on mine, couldn't get a proper measurement without taking the thing to bits.

No I'm not going out there again tonight, too bloody cold Rolling Eyes

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petemillis · Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 709 Location: Brighton, UK

Don't tighten the bolt Dinkum - it'll jam as it goes around the corner.
Pete Millis from Brighton
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Dinkum_Dude · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 23:27 Post subject:

Thanks Pete

But it goes around the corner without bending :? I've watched it do it.

The extra pivot is there for a reason but I can't at the moment see why? The only thing that I can see the extra pivot doing is making the door rub the paint from the arch when it does bend.

Now I'm confused :?
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GAVINTWOPIES · Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 256 Location: TYNE & WEAR

Cheers for that so this now confirms that there is no springs or hidden features to this hinge other than whats in the picture there is one thing that i have noticed and thatthat there must be a extra blind hole in the back of the mounting face of the hinge that bolts tot he door as it needs to mount over a bolt head as does the original which has a cut out to accomodate for this.

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Dinkum_Dude · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 0:17 Post subject:

Thanks Bruce

The soft close on the door has played up since I got it, never had chance to look at it. Been trying to figure it out tonight and just sat here scratching me head. That bolt looks well greased too so might have to whip it apart at the weekend and give it a good clean up before tightening her up a bit.

I'm surprised it's not welded together as mine only rubs the arch when this part folds. So now I can get my arches cleaned up too :D

Thanks again Bruce
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GAVINTWOPIES · Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 256 Location: TYNE & WEAR

Mystery Machine · Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 1837 Location: Bristol

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Dinkum_Dude · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 0:33 Post subject:

Yeah of course it made sense :D

I spent nearly an hour sat in the back of the Deli tonight with me head wedged in an awkward position takin pics for gavin and watching the door slide open then closed. I had it in my head that the bolt could be tightened without any probs and then it looked like pete could see a potential jam.

Thats when I got a bit confused :? and started scratchin me head. Then read your explanation and everything just fell into place.

Yes please, put me down for a set of the new guides mate.
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GAVINTWOPIES · Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 256 Location: TYNE & WEAR

petemillis · Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 709 Location: Brighton, UK

Of course - I meant tight....after checking mine just now - and I've had it off before! Embarassed

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Dinkum_Dude · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 0:39 Post subject:

Hey pete,

You could get bruce to make you some nice new "STAINLESS" Shelves for your cabinet Idea

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