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strangerover Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 4357 Location: Ashton-in-Makerfield
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 21:34 Post subject: Winch info wanted |
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Righty....
have tried before.. so lets try again......
Has anyone info on fitting a winch to a L400 ?? _________________ Regards
Mark |
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pyrogaz
Joined: 29 Apr 2004 Posts: 402 Location: Caithness, next stop polar bears and hardy little chaps in Parkas
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 22:01 Post subject: |
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I've seen a lot of Jap 4x4's with winches fitted to panels that are intended for little more than supporting the front bumper, and have personally witnessed on two occasions the winch making a wonderful job of recovering itself and about half a square foot of 16 gauge steel
To do the job properly on a Deli you need to construct a bracket that can be welded or bolted to the two main chassis members in much the same way that the better towbars are fitted. |
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strangerover Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 4357 Location: Ashton-in-Makerfield
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 22:10 Post subject: |
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Now this sounds like the info I'm looking for...
so the jap ones are there but not really secured then ??
Interesting.....
Anyone seen a "good" install ?
I do not want a winch sticking out miles from the bumper, _________________ Regards
Mark |
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Aircooled68
Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 303 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 22:34 Post subject: |
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seen this one at a meet in fleetwood
_________________ 95 L400 2.8TD green over grey |
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Dinkum_Dude Lifetime member
Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 463 Location: Lee on Solent, Hampshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 22:42 Post subject: |
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A modified rear towbar fitted backwards and upside down to the front should cope with a winch. _________________ The dude 8)
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strangerover Lifetime member
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 22:43 Post subject: |
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anyone know who ownes that ??
I'd like a close up look, as I like the look but would want it back into the bumper more.... _________________ Regards
Mark |
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REDNECK
Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 1085 Location: Dorset
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 0:26 Post subject: |
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All I can add to that is that surely he can't do any serious off roading with the winch in that position because it seriously affects the approach angle
Not come across any posts for fitting winches to Delis but this one on POCUK for fitting one to a Pajero shows the kind of job you're looking at, might give you some ideas http://www.pocuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=53297&start=15&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=winch _________________
No Deli anymore, Mk2 Pajero instead, 2" suspension and body lift, 35's, twin winches etc |
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izzybon
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 336 Location: LUTON
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 0:32 Post subject: |
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How does air get to his Rad there is no gaps is there no air flow
izzybon(John) _________________
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16295 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:30 Post subject: |
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Is it legal to fit a winch like that? If people thought bullbars were dangerous, for the potential damage they could do if they hit a 'small person' they would have a field day with that setup. :? _________________
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petemillis
Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 709 Location: Brighton, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:07 Post subject: |
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I'm with Lewis - tres dangerous! Imagine that slamming into a small person, or even into your own legs - at only 20mph I expect it would smart more than a little bit. That winch should be removed and carired in the back.
I like the look of modified Delis as much as the next Deli nut, but where such mods are dangerous - well, what can you say? It kind of demonstrates lack of concern for the little people.
Pete Millis from Brighton _________________ Pete
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orfy
Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 571 Location: Warrington
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:33 Post subject: |
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It depends if you are fitting it for the looks of the beast or if you want to use it!
If you intend to us it then I'd say you'll also be carrying other off-road recovery kit. Why not us a hand winch etc. _________________ Orfy
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Foxy
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 474 Location: Rugby
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:30 Post subject: |
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I've been wondering the same thing myself - re fitting a winch. I have an ARB winch bar with Superwinch on my Landy and would really miss it! I bet there's something on the Oz site! |
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autotorque
Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 97 Location: North Wales
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:07 Post subject: |
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my winch hooks onto the rear towbar, I'm still looking for a way to incorp it into a front mount position. local shop has offered to build a cage for it on the front but means cutting a lot of the bullbat and plastics to fit in the position i want, agreed stuck on the front overhanging does have some safety implications the problem i found is theres just not enough metal at the front to get a decent securing point to be able to use the winch effectively.
Bruce any ideas ???? _________________ L400 blue/silver The missionbussi
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orfy
Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 571 Location: Warrington
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:41 Post subject: |
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As said above the only viable mounts that I can see would have to be attached to the chassis legs. There's nothing else substantial enough to take it. _________________ Orfy
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Foxy
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 474 Location: Rugby
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 14:40 Post subject: |
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petemillis wrote: |
I'm with Lewis - tres dangerous! Imagine that slamming into a small person, or even into your own legs - at only 20mph I expect it would smart more than a little bit. That winch should be removed and carired in the back.
I like the look of modified Delis as much as the next Deli nut, but where such mods are dangerous - well, what can you say? It kind of demonstrates lack of concern for the little people.
Pete Millis from Brighton |
You think that's going to do THAT much more damage than hitting 2 tonnes of steel? Maybe a few more grazes on top of the pulped bones......
er...did I mention I have a warped sense of humour <evil grin> |
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orfy
Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 571 Location: Warrington
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 15:19 Post subject: |
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I would think twice about changing possible impact zones on any vehicle They are designed to act as crumple zones protecting passengers and pedestrians alike.
In the event of an accident I suggest that you may be leaving yourself open to prossecution and possibly void insurance.
I'd say sensible option is to weld winch points up front and carry a portable or hand winch _________________ Orfy
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Foxy
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 474 Location: Rugby
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 15:36 Post subject: |
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....or buy a tank....
The easy option that I'd thought about is the tow ball mount winch. But to be honest, you would have to be in severe **** to need a winch. And in Really Bad terrain you should have at least One other vehicle with you....and if you have a winch for personal recovery then you'd really ought to have a ground anchor and tree strops too. Oh hark at me. I rarely drive further than Sainsbury's. Ha.
I've got to use my winch twice - whoo hooo. Well...that's me alone ...husband has recovered other vehicles with it. (oh eck...I'm getting winch withdrawal thoughts! Once you've had one.....you really don't want to be without it!) I was a Brownie my motto is "be prepared"..... okay..I'll shut up now
Here's my winch bar and winch.........http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/charliefox/near%20by/land_rover.jpg |
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Foxy
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 474 Location: Rugby
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izzybon
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 336 Location: LUTON
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 16:15 Post subject: |
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what ya need is to remove the bullbars and get a winch bar made up
like they have on the landrovers
izzybon(John) _________________
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REDNECK
Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 1085 Location: Dorset
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 17:15 Post subject: |
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Foxy wrote: |
....or buy a tank....
The easy option that I'd thought about is the tow ball mount winch. |
From information i've found on the web the max rating i've seen for a towball is 3500kg which is probably why they're only used for small winch mounts and the small winches that are available with towball mounts are probably only good enough for the recovery of a ATV or similar.
If it's a portable winch you want just for the odd recovery why not think about a Hi-Lift jack, these can be used for recovering a vehicle and obviously have the use of a jack. Cheaper than a winch more portable than a winch, can be fitted for front or rear recovery, can also be used as a clamping tool or expansion tool. Rated for up to about 7000lb but they have been used to recover Hummers okay so not up to the pulling capacity of a winch but for one off recoveries they're really useful
Winching with a Hi-Lift http://www.bb4wa.com/articles/hilift_jack.htm _________________
No Deli anymore, Mk2 Pajero instead, 2" suspension and body lift, 35's, twin winches etc |
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