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too little too late
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 12 Location: Bury St Edmunds
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 18:33 Post subject: injectors |
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I like many people, have a smokey Delica, black smoke on hittiing the gas pedal. starts okay and does not smoke all the time only on hitting the gas pedal while stationary or accelerating away from the lights or uphill.
Have changed the oil filter, fuel filter, Air filter with no effect, next options I believe are the injectors, or the fuel pump.
Is there anybody in the suffolk, essex area, who can point me in the direction of some body who can do my injectors and if necessary overhaul a fuel pump. _________________ 93 Delica glx, with teething problems
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petemillis
Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 709 Location: Brighton, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 19:28 Post subject: |
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If it's only when you hit the loud pedal it sounds more like the fuel pump. It probably doesn't even need an overhaul, just turning back a bit.
Most Delicas/Pajeros/all diesels have the pumps turned up too far when the leave Japan. 99 times out of 100 they have to be turned back for SVA/ESVA/MOT purposes. Most times they don't get turned back up again, but sometimes they do get turned back up, occasionally too far.
There are threads on the forums about the location and adjustment of the pump on the Mitsubishi 2.5TD engine. Do a search for "fuel pump adjustment 2.5" and I'm sure you'll find something useful!
Remember though, with a diesel it's perfectly normal to get some black smoke puffing when you hit loud. Look at all these bran new diesel Merc, BMWs etc - they ALL do it. Obviously leaving huge trails of black smoke that obscure following drivers' vision isn't right though.
Also, blanking the EGR valve can ease the smoking. A blanking plate is available through the club shop and takes 5 minutes to fit. Make sure you use silicone gasket sealant with it though otherwise you can get some blowby. When you buy the plate you'll receive a note in it with URLs for the threads that explain how to fit it. £5 well spent!
As for the injectors, if blocked these can cause rough running but most problems can be cured using an injector cleaner such as Wendos, oops I mean Millers or Wynns or STP.
As for the fuel pump - the fisrt sign of a problem here is if the motor stalls after a hundred yards or so and then takes a while to get going again. Leaky fuel pump seals usually allow air into the system. _________________ Pete
1995 Delica Space Gear Exceed (PE8W) in LaGuardia silver with chrome tints and BIG round things. |
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Rusty Site Admin
Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 3358 Location: Hampshire/Dorset border!
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 19:34 Post subject: |
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injector cleaner such as Wendos, oops I mean... |
Now Now Peter ROFL _________________
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Dave C
Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 731 Location: Northants
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 21:09 Post subject: |
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is it me being thick and Can't find things in search or what got 12 pages of stuff with fuel pump adjustment 2.5 including jools bent bullbar _________________ Star Wagon super exceed auto(Now sadly gone),Galaxy Ghia 130,Hyundai i800 |
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Rusty Site Admin
Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 3358 Location: Hampshire/Dorset border!
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 21:33 Post subject: |
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Unfortunately we (I) do often go . Try being more specific, i.e. select the right category and if possible an Author. HTHs _________________
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-Crewzin-
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 21:38 Post subject: |
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lmaooooooooooo @ rusty i think your just going for the post counts!!!! _________________ 3rd Amigo of the Amigo Troop.
(not with poms poms) but will be in a feather bower and in a SmArT WiG |
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Rusty Site Admin
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Rusty Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 21:53 Post subject: |
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@crewzin. Nah, I leave that to TT on Pocuk..... D'oh _________________
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-Crewzin-
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 21:54 Post subject: |
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there is a little screw under a "sealed" cap. wound out makes you go like stink,,,, but you smoke like a freight train..
my old pajy wheel span like a scooby,,, but couldn't see a thing behind me. there is also a trick with the intercooler springy thing, there is a thread somewhere
All the best Gordon. _________________ 3rd Amigo of the Amigo Troop.
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Oldskool Beat Lifetime member
Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 1582 Location: Corringham, Essex
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 22:45 Post subject: |
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Found this short posting about adjustment :|
http://www.MDOCUK.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=263&highlight=fuel+pump+adjustment
Even this post relates back to pocuk _________________ Beat
I will not be held responsible for any loss of limbs or any other damage to Deli' or persons.
I am in no way a mechanic or auto electrician.
Just trying to help ;)
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Dave C
Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 731 Location: Northants
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 20:37 Post subject: |
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thanks,in for MOT tomoro,he is tracking it as shogun and see how that goes,he reckons he has done it b4, have put redex in and hope it cleans it abit and see what he says,hiopefully it will be smoke free enough _________________ Star Wagon super exceed auto(Now sadly gone),Galaxy Ghia 130,Hyundai i800 |
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Dave C
Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 731 Location: Northants
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:12 Post subject: |
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siled thro MOt changed air filter first he said it was pretty good for smoke
perhaps we worry too much as pete said the new ones have a bit what do you expect of a 12 year old _________________ Star Wagon super exceed auto(Now sadly gone),Galaxy Ghia 130,Hyundai i800 |
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too little too late
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 12 Location: Bury St Edmunds
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:57 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info
have ordered an EGR plate from the club shop. Will start with that then consider playing with the fuel pump adjustment. _________________ 93 Delica glx, with teething problems
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too little too late
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 12 Location: Bury St Edmunds
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 18:14 Post subject: |
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Hi
have fitted the egr blocking plate, and have noticed an immediate difference the smoke, and performance and fuel consumption.
I no longer have an embarrassing trail of smoke following me down the road when i set off from the lights clearly visible in the mirror.
now it is only visible if I'm standing behind it when the gas peddle is hit, and then not so bad.
i m probably going to finish running this tank of diesel through, just to check the change in mileage, then try adjusting the fuel pump to try and get rid of the last bit of smoke.
so far impressed. not a hard job to do. recommend it for any body with a smokey L300 _________________ 93 Delica glx, with teething problems
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