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L400SH
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 190 Location: Bucks
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 16:51 Post subject: Hisssssss |
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okay, now I've got it :D , and the chaps I bought it from are looking after me but: there's a loud hiss if I kick down or really push the right foot . They've changed a pressure valve at the rear end, LHS of the engine (looking towards the back) but it hasn't cured it. The valve they put on wasn't new but it was evidently stronger than the old one ie you couldn't easily pull it out whereas my old one you could. Any ideas would be gratefully received.. _________________ Steve H
L400 2.8 TDi (PE8W)
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Marc Lifetime member
Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 1495 Location: Brighton
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 16:59 Post subject: |
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Hi Steve
It could be the exhaust manifold gasket,I've heard a bit mentioned about this being a week point,so it may be worth asking them to check that out.apparently its the same on all of the 4m402.8 units including the pajeros,(the valve they have changed is the pressure relief valve its a safety valve for the turbo boost pressure) has the EGR valve been blocked?if so just make sure theres no air letting by on it just check round with your hand carefully and see if you can feel it.Also check the seal and everything around the airfilter housing and also check theres a filter in there!
And basically run round with a 10mm spanner under the bonnet and tighten /pinch up any of the hoses you can see from the intercoller/turnbo etc,also check these pipes whilst running to see if any air is expelled from them via a split or hole,try it at idle and also increase the revs with the help of a helpy type person as well,hope that gives you some things to check,hopefully it will be a loose hose or the like,hth
Marc 8) _________________ 2.8 L400 Delica EXCEED
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L400SH
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 190 Location: Bucks
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 18:15 Post subject: |
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Thanks Marc, I'll try all that. I also noticed that there was an older thread on this very topic. Come Hell or High Water we Will get to the Bottom of it!
Came by your way on Sat. giving the Deli its first run but I didn't think you'd be too enamoured of strange types descending unannounced :o
There'll be another time.. _________________ Steve H
L400 2.8 TDi (PE8W)
Honda Pan European ST1100
Grey colour-coded bars, twin Kenlowes, curtains, Autohaven +, rear underseat box, Before 'n After Waxoiled. |
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Marc Lifetime member
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 18:31 Post subject: |
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Hi Steve
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Came by your way on Sat. giving the Deli its first run but I didn't think you'd be too enamoured of strange types descending unannounced
There'll be another time..
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Ya should have looked in matey kettles always on the go in this gaff,would have been good to have a nose and a natter gis a shoout next time your down this neck of the woods,atb
Marc 8) _________________ 2.8 L400 Delica EXCEED
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petemillis
Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 709 Location: Brighton, UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 18:48 Post subject: |
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Steve, check what sort of air filter is in the air box. If's it a foam one then you'll get more niduction noise when you gas it. One of the Delica's I've got here at the moment has got a flat oiled foam element and it hisses a lot. The other has the standard paper filter and is quiet as a mouse.
Congrats on your purchase by the way - happy motoring _________________ Pete
1995 Delica Space Gear Exceed (PE8W) in LaGuardia silver with chrome tints and BIG round things. |
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L400SH
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 190 Location: Bucks
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 20:43 Post subject: |
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Thanks guys.. yeah I've checked the filter, it's new and paper so probably not that and the hiss is a serious volume, I mean loud! _________________ Steve H
L400 2.8 TDi (PE8W)
Honda Pan European ST1100
Grey colour-coded bars, twin Kenlowes, curtains, Autohaven +, rear underseat box, Before 'n After Waxoiled. |
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colin
Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 25 Location: yate , nr bristol
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:32 Post subject: hissing |
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hi all, on holiday last week with the Deli and caravan and on approaching asteep hill ,when half way up had this hissing sound and no power whatsoever,made it to a layby,left it for 10 mins,and fine ever since.any comments any body cheers colin _________________ why when you find the vehicle you want ,you allways want another one better |
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L400SH
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 19:56 Post subject: |
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Well, so far they've checked every conceivable pressure type hose and changed the inlet manifold.No joy. Latest thinking is the turbo which they're changing as i sit and watch: 7.56pm thurs! Ho hum.. :? _________________ Steve H
L400 2.8 TDi (PE8W)
Honda Pan European ST1100
Grey colour-coded bars, twin Kenlowes, curtains, Autohaven +, rear underseat box, Before 'n After Waxoiled. |
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L400SH
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 19:58 Post subject: |
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Well, so far they've checked every conceivable pressure type hose and changed the inlet manifold.No joy. Latest thinking is the turbo which they're changing as i sit and watch: 7.56pm thurs! Ho hum.. :? _________________ Steve H
L400 2.8 TDi (PE8W)
Honda Pan European ST1100
Grey colour-coded bars, twin Kenlowes, curtains, Autohaven +, rear underseat box, Before 'n After Waxoiled. |
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Marc Lifetime member
Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 1495 Location: Brighton
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 20:17 Post subject: |
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Steve
I notice you say they have changed the inlet manifold have they checked the EXHAUST manifold as they are prone to leaks ,also it may be worth hooking upo a pressure tester to measure the turbo boost,as if its over boosting it will cause the blow off valve to open,on the 2.8 the max boost is 95Kpa .95bar which is 14psi ,the blow off valve on a 2.8 is located on the rear end of the inlet manifold (closest to bulkhead) may be a long shot but its got to be worth checking,as it could even be slightly open for whatever reason and loosing boost through it and hissing like mad.
Have you noticed and slight loss of power at all?
Hope this helps atb
Marc 8) _________________ 2.8 L400 Delica EXCEED
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L400SH
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 190 Location: Bucks
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 17:37 Post subject: |
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Hi Marc, yes there was a considerable loss of power along with this massive hissing. They changed the pressure valve quite early on to no avail. Now, I have to report that IT IS FIXED :D :D :D
It was the little thingy on the end of the thingy on the turbo. All clear? What I mean is, the swivel connected to a flap which opens and closes inside the turbo, it was opening or closing when it should or shouldn't!. I'm sure you know what this is called and what it does. Anyway, we are now running rather nicely and can actually ascend hills! :o
Thanks to everyone who offered advice, it all goes into the memory banks for the next time! _________________ Steve H
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Marc Lifetime member
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 17:45 Post subject: |
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Hi Steve
Glad you got it sorted matey :D not too expensively i hope ,was the bit in question anything to do with the wastegate actuator and or the actuator rod?just a thought else i Can't really think what part it was ,be handy if we knew just in case anybody else has the same thing,anyhoos glad your back on the road mate all the best
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L400SH
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 13:29 Post subject: |
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Hi Marc, all this has cost me nothing :D , the people I bought it from undertook the work so no prob there. Now, I don't know a lot about turbos but there's a short rod which seems to be attached to a pivot, if you move this rod (turbo off the vehicle, if that makes any difference) the sound from inside is like a metal gate closing and opening. Does this make sense? Could it be what you suggested? _________________ Steve H
L400 2.8 TDi (PE8W)
Honda Pan European ST1100
Grey colour-coded bars, twin Kenlowes, curtains, Autohaven +, rear underseat box, Before 'n After Waxoiled. |
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0sb0rne
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 60 Location: Lydden, Kent
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 13:55 Post subject: |
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sounds exactly like the wastegate actuator that you are moving to change the wastegate valve position...
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guerdeval
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 20 Location: cornwall
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 18:04 Post subject: hiss |
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Steve, it sounds like you had good back up from the garage, what were they called? |
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L400SH
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 18:18 Post subject: |
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the garage is Acton Autos (see note under Dealers) and they have a couple of Chilean mechanics who seem to be well versed in Pajero/Shogun/Delica matters. _________________ Steve H
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chiefie
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 2163 Location: fleetwood lancashire
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 18:57 Post subject: |
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the waste gate valves and seats are prone to cracking on the 2.5 and 2.8 engines but this usually sounds more like a whistle noise. just thought i would add that useless info :? |
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Rusty Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 19:38 Post subject: |
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chiefie wrote: |
the waste gate valves and seats are prone to cracking on the 2.5 and 2.8 engines but this usually sounds more like a whistle noise. just thought i would add that useless info :? |
Useless info Chiefie
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