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Mitsubishi Delica Owners Club UK™ Mitsubishi Delica L300, L400 and D:5 Owners Club
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PinkPig Lifetime member
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:34 Post subject: Completely different engine choice (or lunacy?!?) |
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He's gone mad again! But hang on....
So the stock L300 4d56T runs about 87-92 bhp and 150ftlb/200Nm torque depending on which spec sheet you read.
While looking at daily drivers I notice these newer 3 pot turbo engines like the PSA Puretech (fitted in Peugeot/Citroen and recently Vauxhall) include a 1.2L 3 cylinder engine putting out 129 bhp and 170ftlb/230Nm torque.
So more more power and torque and half physical size and weight, so should fit under the L300 or L400 bonnet easily (with the right adapters for the gearbox etc)
While many people look at bigger V6/V8 options, how about going smaller/modern tech?
Ford ecoboost 1.0L has similar output.
Hmmmm...just need to find a rear end write off in the scrappy :-) _________________ The PINK PIG!
1988 Delica L300 Star Wagon 2.5TD 5sp Manual.
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jaspa
Joined: 27 Apr 2018 Posts: 71 Location: Gatwick
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:51 Post subject: |
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If they are small enough... shoe horn two in there
The Eco-boost engine in the fiesta makes it a really nice drive. I'm not sure how it would respond once you've doubled/tripled the weight it's trying to move though.
I'd hate to think about the wiring side of the conversion too but throw enough time/money/experience at it and it's possible. I once stuck a 2l turbo engine out of the mk2 MR2 into a Mk1 MR2 and the wiring was the weak point for me, but saying that, this was also a well documented swap. Was a real hoot once done mind you :D until the tin worm finished it's job
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andyman
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 5602 Location: Penrith
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 19:59 Post subject: |
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The Audi A4 1.9TDi engine was a reliable and tough motor. My Mark 1 A4 (110bhp) was still starting first click when I scrapped it at 245,000 miles. Just all the suspension + various other bits were worn out. I had the 130 bhp Mark2 as well - a real flyer. It was an inline engine, so should adapt to the Deli's gearbox. Mechanical pump too, no problem with spares. Ecoboost have had a few self-immolation problems if driven hard! I prefer something a little lazier, especially if it has to lug 2 tons around! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45628325 _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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jejoenje
Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 785 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 16:10 Post subject: Re: Completely different engine choice (or lunacy?!?) |
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PinkPig wrote: |
While looking at daily drivers I notice these newer 3 pot turbo engines like the PSA Puretech (fitted in Peugeot/Citroen and recently Vauxhall) include a 1.2L 3 cylinder engine putting out 129 bhp and 170ftlb/230Nm torque.
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DO IT! If only for the forum thread of the build!
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I had a 130bhp 1.9td Audi A6 a while back. Great engine. 50mpg on the motorway all day.
Clutch, dual mass and half the electrics saw that one off, engine still running well at 230k+
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Interestingly, that is the engine in my daily (2002 A3), and I completely agree it is GREAT. Love that engine, and particular in a little A3 it feels like a proper boy racer when you put your foot down.
Other than a leaky radiator and the DMF slowly eating itself, its flawless. Just a shame the body looks like someone has left it in a swamp for a few years.
On another note, you could electrify it? It's been done with big old lumps of vehicles before, and conversion kits can be had for not that much money.
Plus, plenty of space for batteries! _________________ 1992 L300 Exceed "Selma" |
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:01 Post subject: |
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Going to have to do something like that. If this area goes LEZ then I'll be fined for pulling off the driveway!
Looks like we're going for the bonkers lime yellow citroen cactus - 100g/km emissions mean it's tax free and it's paired down like a 2CV so weighs under a tonne so the 110bhp from the 1.2L 3 pot petrol lump means it's quite nippy and economical.
Yes I know - It's a citroen - so wave and flash when you see me having yet another picnic on a hard shoulder somewhere
An in a couple of years it'll either be my sons leaner car (Inbetweeners anyone?) or I'l do the conversion - just drive the Delica on top of it, job done. _________________ The PINK PIG!
1988 Delica L300 Star Wagon 2.5TD 5sp Manual.
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andyman
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:26 Post subject: |
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My experience of old '80s and '90s Citroens and Peugeots (XUD diesels) was that they were incredibly reliable, including switches and ancilliaries. Apart from normal servicing, in the four years I had it, my 1.9TD Xantia needed a set of glow plugs and two suspension spheres. Absolute limo. People like knocking the French, and yes, I would avoid any Renault built between 2003 and 2012. Early Meganes and Scenics (except 2L) were very reliable. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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mouseflakes
Joined: 17 Jun 2012 Posts: 193 Location: Kendal
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 14:41 Post subject: |
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andyman wrote: |
'90s Citroens and Peugeots (XUD diesels) |
The pinnacle of their output I'd say. I love my 106 (TUD5) - it just keeps going. A great ride for such a small car too. Having said that, the wheelbase of the Saxo/106 is actually longer than that of the L300. Who'd a thunk it? _________________ 1992 L300 Super Exceed |
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