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Power steering pump oil pressure hose - retaining nut spec??


 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 18:25    Post subject: Power steering pump oil pressure hose - retaining nut spec?? Reply with quote

Help!
Please could anyone here tell me the spec for the retaining nut for the power steering pressure hose? The one that holds the banjo connection onto the P/S pump?
Don't ask...
Let's just say I need to replace the nut, and although it *looks* like an M12, the thread appears to be different and I really do not want to damage it...

Thank you!

Jeroen
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 18:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's part no. 48989 in this picture:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 19:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

take a look at the manual ..
37 steering.....  pages 4 to 7 ..
i'm sure that is there the info you are looking but seems that I can't spot the exact value ... sorry
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 19:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, NIk.
I don't think it's in there... as far as I'm aware anyway.  Sad
These manuals tend to contain the info needed by normal people, like torque specs, etc. Not info needed for nutters who are stupid enough to lose their nuts... fnarrr...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 19:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

found it ...  :D
depending on the engine values are ...  16-24  or  14-21 Nm

pages 53 and 54 on the same manual
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 21:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are the torque specs, not the sizes for the nut... but thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 21:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loving the truly international spirit of helpful co-operation on this site. A Greek (in Greece) and a Dutchman (in Scotland) sorting out problems with a Japanese vehicle on a British-based forum! I think there's a lesson in there somewhere! thumbup
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 22:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyman wrote:
I think there's a lesson in there somewhere! thumbup


Yes .. there is a lesson here ...
Read carefully before answer

That's why I gave jejoenje a wrong answer ...
because I didn't pay attention on what he was asking ...  Embarassed

Sorry my friend ...  Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 23:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, don't apologise! I appreciate the help... I really do. There's so much in those manuals that it is very likely I've missed something... so a second pair of eyes are much appreciated.  :D
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 23:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyman wrote:
Loving the truly international spirit of helpful co-operation on this site. A Greek (in Greece) and a Dutchman (in Scotland) sorting out problems with a Japanese vehicle on a British-based forum! I think there's a lesson in there somewhere! thumbup


Good point well made...! Who needs Facebook!  Laughing  Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 0:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hear Hear!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 0:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

The part umber is MF430727 and all it says in the parts order specs is:-

1 48989 MF430727 01 NUT,P/S OIL LINE JAM,12

I suspect it is probably a M12 1.25 TPI thread.

Now this may sound daft but your wheel nuts are M12 1.5 TPI, so see if one easily fits over the thread, but take care not to force it, as that will damage it. If or not it easily fits will help determine if it is 1.5 or 1.25 TPI.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Lewis Smile
That's a good point, and I had already tried a wheel nut!  It sure doesn't fit, although it sort of seems to bite onto the top but then get impossible to further tighten.
Like you say, I suspect its a super fine thread. I've ordered a couple of 1.25 pitch M12's from the interwebs, FINGERS CROSSED.
Because if that doesn't do it, I might end up having to order the OEM version from Mitsi...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 21:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jejoenje,

             Would it be possible to take your power steering pump to a hydraulic hose maker and find
out if it is a hydraulic thread, which are normally finer than normal bolt threads, might be worth a try.
                                          Cheers Chris & Chris.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 22:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi jejoenje

If you really get stuck on this, I may be able to make a nut for you.

This would, of course mean that you have to post the original nut to me.

If you do need me to help, best to call me. My No. can be found in the member2member services.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 0:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANK YOU Mr Dr!
I'll bear that in mind.
Unfortunate thing is, the nut has gone AWOL! If I could only find it, there would not be an issue...   Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 0:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr.b wrote:
Hi Jejoenje,

             Would it be possible to take your power steering pump to a hydraulic hose maker and find
out if it is a hydraulic thread, which are normally finer than normal bolt threads, might be worth a try.
                                          Cheers Chris & Chris.


Thanks Mr B!
That's a good idea, when I get REALLY stuck.
Are hydraulic threads normally different again from the 1.75/1.5/1.25 pitch patterns?
I'm really hoping that a 1.25 pitch nut is going to do the trick - hopefully I'll know after the postman's been tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lewis wrote:
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You, sir, are a wizard. Thank you! I pride myself on my Googling generally, but I totally couldn't find this one.

As luck will have it, the postman arrived this morning with a baggie full of M12 1.25 pitch nuts, and I am happy to report they fit! So my steering rack pressure pipe is back on the pump...

Now we'll just have to wait and see whether my repair of set pipe (rusted through at the bend at the bottom) is going to hold!  Laughing
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