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jejoenje
Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 785 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 21:19 Post subject: balljoint taper. Am I just being a wimp? |
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So, at the stage of having to undo the taper on the upper ball joint on my L300.
Following Mystery Machine's excellent guide.
Castellated nut is loose and still attached to the end of the thread.
Also undid the shock from the bottom arm, just in case.
Was hoping to avoid pickleforks or suchlike.
Now, I am not a violent man. However, even after a lot (A LOT) of hard bashing of the top end of the steering knuckle, the little *****r still hasn't dropped.
There is movement in the ball joint when bashing it (sideways!), but it hasn't moved down the thread one bit.
Am I going mental/being a wimp/doing something wrong??
Is the torsion bar actually pushing the upper arm down too far? Should I loosen the bar tensioners? Should I take the stabiliser bar off the bottom arm? _________________ 1992 L300 Exceed "Selma" |
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16298 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 21:24 Post subject: |
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Assuming the vehicle is jacked up, so that the lower wishbone is pushing upwards, try this method
With a 4lb lump hammer in each hand, hit the casting from both sides at the same time. That normally makes it pop off.
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jejoenje
Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 785 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 21:49 Post subject: |
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Lewis wrote: |
so that the lower wishbone is pushing upwards
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Thanks Lewis, I'll have a go from both end simultaneuously!
Certainly is jacked up and on stands - however that means that the lower arm is pulling downwards on the knuckle, surely (i.e. its own weight)?
The upper wishbone would be pushing down on the knuckle though - and the ball joint? Which is why I was wondering if I should undo the torsion bar, as I suppose its spring force would still be pushing downwards? _________________ 1992 L300 Exceed "Selma" |
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16298 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 21:54 Post subject: |
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Typo on my part, fingers not going as fast as my eyeballs.
Between 'is' and 'pushed' insert 'not'.
Rather than mess with the torsion bar, which would then require realigning with a laser setup, insert a bottle jack between the top and bottom wishbones to push them apart.
See this photo:- https://app.box.com/s/gm4ownnl8f99lxlj7ll5ym57br1gcfzm _________________
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jejoenje
Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 785 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 22:11 Post subject: |
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okidoke! I did wonder about that, too. Will have a go. Thanks again! _________________ 1992 L300 Exceed "Selma" |
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andyman
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 5602 Location: Penrith
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:44 Post subject: |
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I am a convert to the fork-and-screw type of ball joint extractor. Having put the fork over the rubber gaiter, between the upper wishbone and hub-carrier casting, and tightened the bolt onto the end of the (loosened) nut and taper thread to a good force, if you can get the hammer in, smack the end of the extractor bolt, and the side of the eye around the taper. A loud bang, with movement, announces the taper is freed. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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jejoenje
Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 785 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 22:02 Post subject: |
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So, turns out I wasn't such a wimp after all.
Success- in the end I took the torsion bar off and also disconnected the sway bar from the bottom arm. With only a bit of a tap the upper joint came out quite easy. In the end I decided it wouldn't matter as I will need an alignment after all of this anyway.
I decided to go to town and just take off the entire hub and knuckle - might as well and it made disconnecting the lower ball joint a whole lot easier.
Now it's on to sourcing new ball joints and deciding whether I need new wheel bearings, too. And cv boots. And steering rack boots...
Fun to see how everything fits together!
Thanks all for the advice! _________________ 1992 L300 Exceed "Selma" |
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andyman
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 23:14 Post subject: |
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Total respect for your efforts and achievements. I still haven't fitted my replacement alternator! _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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Lewis Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 0:43 Post subject: |
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