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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 19:23    Post subject: Rear springs again !! Reply with quote

My Deli is a LWB and gets used for everything , camping , moving house ( four times in last two years ) carrying building materials and tools etc , about two years ago or maybe a bit more I purchased springs off AndyJ , the thought was a 2" lift would allow a bit more travel when loaded without the Deli looking a bit saggy , but it's not the case , the springs are just not man enough , with seven on board ( kids in the back ) it's dragging it's rear end .

I have searched and searched  and I have found the same questions but cannot find consistent answers  Rolling Eyes   I know that part of the answer is Landy 110 springs ( front ) but which ones  Question Standard , heavy duty , lifted and by how much , any help would be appreciated as it's not only load carrying thats a problem cause when empty she now wallows like an old sow round corners , the dampers are good by the way   :D  I have some spring assisters but they won't help with the wallowing and so I'm loath to use them , I have access to a ramp for all my work which makes it nice and easy so I don't mind how many times I do the job to get it right , the problem is that I only want to buy one set of springs as I can't exactly borrow some for trial  Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 19:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyre pressures  Question

If you got weight in the back, try increasing the pressures, I suggest 42 PSI and maybe more.

It is only my suggestion - - - I may be wrong, so, please don't shout me down.
It is what I would try first.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 20:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Search for bearmach heavy duty 110 front land rover springs +45mm 255lb I've used these on a few delis and still have them on my main one, we use it fully loaded with passengers,  camping gear on the roof and a large caravan on the back, it sits spot in with no roll or harshness (still have ECS,  I'm on 265/75/15 yokohama geolanders which probably help too.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 21:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andyj on here does springs that are very good.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 8:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies guys , Deker I am already at 45 psi , Bazza it's AndyJ springs that I have fitted , albideli thanks for the info but  my Deli is a LWB and I understand that the springs are different to a SWB but don't know by how much , I also still have ECS and am running Cooper Discoverers 265 / 70 / 15 ATR

The springs are definitely the issue , when accelerating hard the back end goes down as if I had a V8 under the hood  Laughing  very noticeable to anyone following

I should also mention that all wishbone and trailing arm bushes have been replaced over the last three years  Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that with these being the 255lb they're suitable for the lwb,  I've a mate with them on too and his also runs fine fully loaded and towing  Wink
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 14:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be worth checking with a dealer for proper genuine ones. Checked for my SWB this morning and was pleasantly surprised!

http://www.MDOCUK.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46367
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 21:08    Post subject: Re: Rear springs again !! Reply with quote

LOKE wrote:
My Deli is a LWB and gets used for everything , camping , moving house ( four times in last two years ) carrying building materials and tools etc , about two years ago or maybe a bit more I purchased springs off AndyJ , the thought was a 2" lift would allow a bit more travel when loaded without the Deli looking a bit saggy , but it's not the case , the springs are just not man enough , with seven on board ( kids in the back ) it's dragging it's rear end .

I have searched and searched  and I have found the same questions but cannot find consistent answers  Rolling Eyes   I know that part of the answer is Landy 110 springs ( front ) but which ones  Question Standard , heavy duty , lifted and by how much , any help would be appreciated as it's not only load carrying thats a problem cause when empty she now wallows like an old sow round corners , the dampers are good by the way   :D  I have some spring assisters but they won't help with the wallowing and so I'm loath to use them , I have access to a ramp for all my work which makes it nice and easy so I don't mind how many times I do the job to get it right , the problem is that I only want to buy one set of springs as I can't exactly borrow some for trial  Laughing


yeah i have andy j springs and also in building trade and find mine sag under load too although are good for off road and otherwise...i will watch this thread with interest Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 21:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOKE wrote:
.... my Deli is a LWB and I understand that the springs are different to a SWB ........


MR112829 spring suspension coil, rear - Yellow (HD)
MR112266 Spring suspension coil, rear - Red (STD)

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 16:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

MR112829 spring suspension coil, rear - Yellow (HD)  LWB.  £81.06 + vat.  Special order from Japan, around 12-13 weeks delivery time.
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 18:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they'll fit SWB too, I reckon I might have to be getting a set of those (just need to close my eyes when paying for them  Embarassed )
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 14:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been having a look on milners site for something else and stumbled across a set of OBK springs and they reckon to be 20% stronger than standard too and half the price of genuine.  Anybody happen to have tried them?  Always a bit reluctant to order springs from Milners after the last set I had (leafs for an old landcruiser) bent (yes, bent, not even snapped!).  Being branded I'm wndering if they might be okay though this time.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 19:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fitted a set of the OBK ones from Milners yesterday and been out today with a reasonable load in the back and it definitely doesn't sag as much.  They do make it sit a little higher at the back but there's half a chance mine was sat low anyway as the old springs and new ones were similar length sat next to each other.  Doesn't seem too harsh a ride either.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 14:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a quick fix use spring assistors which do work- they are thick rubber strips that are pressed into the spaces between each coil.

www.springassisters.co.uk[/quote]
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