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Andy W
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:32 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the encouraging words Lewis! To be honest, even the rain you see in Saraha would be a start!
Andy _________________ 1994 LWB Super Exceed L400, Black & Silver |
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16298 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 13:08 Post subject: |
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In which case you need to start collecting some camel pee. _________________
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Andy W
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 20:23 Post subject: |
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Might burn better! _________________ 1994 LWB Super Exceed L400, Black & Silver |
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andyj
Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2412 Location: up norf
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 21:35 Post subject: |
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daft question: I've just had a simlar prob and it turned out to be electrical.. have you tested the solenoid and wiring going to make sure its okay?
i found out i had a problem with the SIX pin connector ontop of the pump, looking at the male side its the TWO on the top far right that get 12v with ignition live, my prob was a dirty/worn connector block
also didn't hear any clicks from the back of IP when ignitionwas live (glow plug relay wire was off) but i learn the SIX pin connector governs the glow solenoid as well, christ knows what pins though.
still better than being recovered on ther back of a low loader! |
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andyj
Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2412 Location: up norf
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 21:38 Post subject: |
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forgot to add, the Deli will pass TONS of fuel back to the tank, you can be running with about 25% air in the lines and it will still run alright! |
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Green Grouch Lifetime member
Joined: 14 Feb 2012 Posts: 1264 Location: Dorset
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 21:41 Post subject: |
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If your feeling brave, there is a manual out there for the fuel pump.
I remember looking at it once and thinking I'd have a go, if I had some spare time.
I would have brought another pump to run the truck on for the year that it would take me to mess about with the other
Would be a good write up, and your good at those. _________________ A Little Knowledge is Dangerous and expensive! especially if your me Mending anything!! |
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Andy W
Joined: 03 May 2015 Posts: 560 Location: Brighton
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 22:53 Post subject: |
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Thanks for that Andy; yes I checked all the electricals and took the plunger out of the stop solenoid just in case, all to no avail.
I am happy to strip the pump and replace seals etc. but I guess that there are other things that are checked and maybe replaced if necessary and then it comes down to setting up the pump again which I wouldn't be able to do, so I guess sadly, its coming down to having to spend some serious money getting it sorted by someone else.
To cheer myself up this afternoon though, I made a start on putting a captains seat in the front passenger side; going quite well, I've cut the runners down, done a little panel beating on the floor and drilled the two front bolt holes so should be finished later this week hopefully.
Andy _________________ 1994 LWB Super Exceed L400, Black & Silver |
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andyman
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 5602 Location: Penrith
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 0:52 Post subject: |
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If you are thinking of getting someone else to sort out your pump, it would be worth asking Mark 3. He travels, and Essex isn't so far from Spalding. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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Andy W
Joined: 03 May 2015 Posts: 560 Location: Brighton
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 15:32 Post subject: |
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Yes I will contact him, though I'm not sure if he reconditions them or not. _________________ 1994 LWB Super Exceed L400, Black & Silver |
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hotchpotch
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 339 Location: Preston
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 19:27 Post subject: |
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Hi Andy
I've not been on here for a while, but have just read through this thread.
A few years ago, I got to a similarly desperate situation with my LWB Deli and dumped it in the diesel shop that had recently rebuilt my pump and refurbed the injectors. It turned out to be a fracture in the metal pipework that goes along the side of the pump to the banjo connector at the front.
I'm not sure if this is entirely relevant to your problem, but as no-one else has mentioned it, I thought I may as well throw it in the pot.
HTH
Peter _________________ Carpe diem quam minimum credula postero.
From the Latin, meaning 'Seize the day, trusting as little as possible in the future.'
Or, in today's language 'Do all the things you love today, because you may not be here tomor$&£@>>>..... ... |
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Andy W
Joined: 03 May 2015 Posts: 560 Location: Brighton
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:31 Post subject: |
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Thanks for that Peter; it is not something I have checked so will have a look,
Andy _________________ 1994 LWB Super Exceed L400, Black & Silver |
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16298 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 20:19 Post subject: |
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If that pipe was fractured there would be fuel leaking out under pressure and running down the side of the engine. _________________
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c12
Joined: 16 Mar 2017 Posts: 3 Location: wiltshire
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 0:07 Post subject: |
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Jut a thought as I'm reading through this post and getting some great ideas to help my problem
has anyone pulled a vacuum on the fuel lines on the back of the pump to see if the oil seal is leaking air would this be a way of testing it ? |
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Andy W
Joined: 03 May 2015 Posts: 560 Location: Brighton
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:17 Post subject: |
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Well finally got the pump back from Ribble Valley Diesels they said the main cylinder (??) inside the pump was badly scored and would have been pulling in air for a while; total cost of replacing the scored cylinder and fitting new seals etc came to £465 which I felt all things considered wasn't bad at all.
Refitted it and drained the batteries twice before the fuel came through and then after a couple of silly set up issues it is running again. Drove for about 20 minutes the other night with no problems, then yesterday for over an hour with no problems.
So finally sorted, thanks to everyone for your input on this very long (though not record breaking) thread, I have certainly learnt a lot and can get the fuel pump out and back in, in just over 2 hours !
Andy _________________ 1994 LWB Super Exceed L400, Black & Silver |
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nug
Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 89 Location: Lincoln uk
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:43 Post subject: |
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Good news mate :D |
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Green Grouch Lifetime member
Joined: 14 Feb 2012 Posts: 1264 Location: Dorset
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 20:28 Post subject: |
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Hope it's solved it. _________________ A Little Knowledge is Dangerous and expensive! especially if your me Mending anything!! |
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gnomebase
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 366 Location: London
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 17:02 Post subject: |
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Well done, and many thanks for keeping us updated. |
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Andy W
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 21:49 Post subject: |
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When I said it was fixed, that was after a good few miles, however on Sunday it conked out again!
With a reconditioned fuel pump, new filter and housing /priming pump, the only thing left that hasn't been replaced are the fuel lines, so I purchased 10m of 8mm fuel hose to fit new between the filter and pump and the filter and the tank.
Today I fitted the new hose so now the only thing that hasn't been replaced is the return line but I can't see that being an issue unless you guys think different.
When I was connecting the hose to the tank I took off the return hose by mistake and found that the tank had a big vacuum in it, which took two or three seconds to equalise. This got me thinking about whether this might be the problem with the pump sucking so hard that it pulls in air at times, or is a vacuum in the tank fairly normal?
Getting very tired of this now, it's taking far too long to resolve.
Cheers, Andy _________________ 1994 LWB Super Exceed L400, Black & Silver |
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Green Grouch Lifetime member
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 22:32 Post subject: |
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Don't give up Andy!
At least you will have a great vehicle at the end as you've replaced nearly everything!.
Sounds like a bit too much vacuum to me, but an expert will be along soon.
Your nearly there _________________ A Little Knowledge is Dangerous and expensive! especially if your me Mending anything!! |
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16298 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 0:25 Post subject: |
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Andy W wrote: |
When I was connecting the hose to the tank I took off the return hose by mistake and found that the tank had a big vacuum in it, which took two or three seconds to equalise. This got me thinking about whether this might be the problem with the pump sucking so hard that it pulls in air at times, or is a vacuum in the tank fairly normal? |
There shouldn't be a vacuum inside the tank at all. There is a breather unit located on the top of the tank, with pipes going from it to the front and rear ends. It's possible that mud has got up abbove the tank and blocked it.
Unfortunately removing the tank is the only way to check it.
A simple remedy is to drill a 1mm hole into the centre part of the outer cap, from the inside, as per the photo below:-
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