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NikTheGreek
Joined: 10 Dec 2016 Posts: 192 Location: Trikala, Greece
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 19:30 Post subject: Front wheel alignment |
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Recently i replaced the old Tyres with new ones but seems that there can be no Tyres alignment due to rusty bolts and nuts ( i don't know how to name them in English ... sorry )
The guy at the shop told me that there is the option to cut the old rusty bolts and replace them with new ones , thing that i want to avoid.
Any idea or suggestion on how to loosen these bolts in order to align the front Tyres ?
Thank you in advance. _________________ Mitsos (my car) is a
LHD 4WD L300 1991
4D56 TD - Manual Transmission.
English is not my native language, so please feel free to correct any wrong spelling or syntax errors in my posts. |
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Lewis Site Admin
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andyman
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 5602 Location: Penrith
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 20:18 Post subject: |
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Do you mean the cam/eccentric/off-centre pivot bolts through the upper swinging arm/wishbone which connect it to the chassis? These should not lose alignment unless the rubber bushes are worn. Can you get a grinder onto one side of the nut, either to cut through the nut or grind away one side of it without damaging the bolt? Or use a drill-powered wire brush to thoroughly clean off rust, and applying lots of WD40 or PlusGas, left to soak between trying the nut with a strong socket and extension bar. Or do you mean the track rod end ball joints on the steering arms ( track rods)? These may need heating to dull red to free them, plus soaking as above, but will then need renewing, as the rubber gaiters will burn. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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NikTheGreek
Joined: 10 Dec 2016 Posts: 192 Location: Trikala, Greece
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 22:56 Post subject: |
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WoW .... Yes .. was a good lesson . :D
In two replies and a few lines you taught me almost everything about tyre alignment and how to fix rusty bolts.
I guess that he meant ( my mechanic) that all joints must be free of rust in order to do his job without any problem.
Thank you both ... _________________ Mitsos (my car) is a
LHD 4WD L300 1991
4D56 TD - Manual Transmission.
English is not my native language, so please feel free to correct any wrong spelling or syntax errors in my posts. |
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James22sniper
Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 286 Location: BUCKS / OXON
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 18:29 Post subject: Can bolts |
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Hi all...
Does anyone know where I can get a pair of lower front cam bolts for my L400?
The existing were totally seized inside the bush and had to be hammered and cut out thus destroying them.
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Lewis Site Admin
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 16299 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 18:41 Post subject: |
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Mentioned that at the bottom of my post above. _________________
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James22sniper
Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 286 Location: BUCKS / OXON
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:42 Post subject: Thanks |
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Thank you kind sir! Wasn't sure if the ones in your link would be suitable for the L400. Ordering some now! |
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NikTheGreek
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 14:48 Post subject: |
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Here is the Rusty Camber bolt
Do i have any chance to cure the problem using heating , hammer and WD40 bath ? _________________ Mitsos (my car) is a
LHD 4WD L300 1991
4D56 TD - Manual Transmission.
English is not my native language, so please feel free to correct any wrong spelling or syntax errors in my posts. |
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Lewis Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 14:55 Post subject: |
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I've seen worse than that. :D
Once the WD40 has been allowed to soak in overnight try to slightly tighten the nut on the bolt, to break the 'rust seal' then undo and redo the nut to ease it off enough to fully remove it.
HTH _________________
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andyman
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 18:33 Post subject: |
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Using enough heat to make a difference will burn your rubber bushes, so soak and soak again, and use good quality, tight fitting spanners, preferably with a hex hole, not 12 point star, so less chance of slipping. Even better if you can get an extension bar on it. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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Lewis Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 18:53 Post subject: |
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Be careful though, as a long bar can induce you to put more leverage on than you need, which can shear the bolt. _________________
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NikTheGreek
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 20:35 Post subject: |
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nut already is loose and i can undo it using the above method ( The side depicted on pic ) the weekend we will try to release the body of the bolt in order to be able to turn free inside the rubber bushe.
I will keep you informed ...
Thank you once again. _________________ Mitsos (my car) is a
LHD 4WD L300 1991
4D56 TD - Manual Transmission.
English is not my native language, so please feel free to correct any wrong spelling or syntax errors in my posts. |
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Lewis Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 21:16 Post subject: |
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Once you have the nut off then use a punch or short bar to push the bolt through. _________________
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NikTheGreek
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 22:13 Post subject: |
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bad news ....
rubber bush burned by flame torch while trying to remove the bolt ...
don't ask me how ..
i guess that the mechanic was not sure on what he was doing ...
Anyway ...
Next question concerning ( probably ) the same problem ..
how can i tell if the swinging arm is bended even slightly..
there is any way to measure it without removing it ? _________________ Mitsos (my car) is a
LHD 4WD L300 1991
4D56 TD - Manual Transmission.
English is not my native language, so please feel free to correct any wrong spelling or syntax errors in my posts. |
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andyman
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 22:20 Post subject: |
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No, no, - I warned you not to use heat for exactly that reason! _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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NikTheGreek
Joined: 10 Dec 2016 Posts: 192 Location: Trikala, Greece
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 22:25 Post subject: |
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i know , i know .... you are right..
i told him ...but he was deaf ...
i'm trying to forget it _________________ Mitsos (my car) is a
LHD 4WD L300 1991
4D56 TD - Manual Transmission.
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andyman
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 22:39 Post subject: |
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Sorry, I hope you get it sorted. Your mechanic owes you a favour. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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andyman
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 21:31 Post subject: |
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The wishbones are very strong and stiff. To twist them, iny opinion, would require a sharp impact which would deform part of it visibly. Jacking the van up high enough so you can look at both wishbones at once from underneath may help you to assess the trueness or otherwise of the wishbones. I am not sure how exactly similar gaps and levels should be from 1 side to the other in vehicle manufacture of this vintage, but if you don' t have a good eye for this, you may need a laser alignment shop anyway. A less high-tech, and rough check would be to park it on a totally flat and level floor, and measure the camber on the front wheels with a spirit level. Your tyres will need to match perfectly so hub centres are the same height across each axle, as will wheel arch to hub centre measurements. It is possible your torsion bar or rear spring has sagged, or been incorrectly adjusted. _________________ Andy C L300 Super Exceed - over 100 smiles per gallon! |
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Deker
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 3833 Location: Borehamwood
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 21:33 Post subject: |
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NikTheGreek wrote: |
there is any way to measure it without removing it from chassi[/b] |
Very difficult without specialised measuring tools for your model.
Best to compare with another - I know - probably not another Delica any where near you.
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Lewis Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:59 Post subject: |
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It should be a mirror image of the one on the other side. _________________
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